Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

"Big Oil has 68 million acres" proven TRUE - Exxon Mobil FORCED to drill or give up leases

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 10:43 AM
Original message
"Big Oil has 68 million acres" proven TRUE - Exxon Mobil FORCED to drill or give up leases
"Exxon Mobil says it has begun drilling at Alaska's Point Thomson oil and gas field.

Patrick McGinn, a company spokesman, says drilling operations were launched Friday.

In February, Exxon returned eight of its Point Thomson leases that were part of 13 added to the field in 2002. Exxon had promised to drill wells and begin producing oil within four years, but no drilling occurred.

The state has been fighting with the Irving, Texas-based oil giant and other lease holders over the lack of progress there.

Alaska officials have tried to cancel the leases, but in January it did allow Exxon to drill on two leases after the company said it would start production within five years.
"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_exxon_point_thomson

You see, Exxon really was just sitting on oil reserves while oil was in the middle of record high prices. Makes one wonder how many of those 68 million acres they already got are just full of oil.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 10:46 AM
Response to Original message
1. Gosh. What a surprise.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 10:52 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. very simple
Oil reserves = company value = stock price.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 10:55 AM
Response to Original message
3. Thom Hartmann was absolutely right
They used the gasoline-price crisis (or created it) to "shock doctrine" a grab for the leases to drill. Leases which have no expiration date and require only a nominal per-acre yearly fee.


They want the oil on their books immediately, and in the pipeline... whenever.




Like I was telling people... THERE WAS NO SHORTAGE OF OIL. All orders were being filled, all tankers and pipelines were full, all refineries were functioning.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. Yes, But This Analysis Conveniently Dismisses the Global Drop In Demand
Demand Destruction = Lower Price Per Barrel = Lower Pump Prices

Economics 101!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 11:13 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. The drop in demand was in comsumption, not in speculation
There was a shortage of crude oil futures to trade on the commodities markets.


In other words, the rich and powerful desperately wanted to buy oil futures as a short-term or long-term investment, which started a feeding frenzy for the pieces of paper that said somebody owned X barrels of crude. All the wealthy people and the powerful investment houses wanted a piece of the action because the price was climbing so steeply... which causes the price to rise even steeper.

A classic pump-and-dump.


The laws of supply and demand still held, but you have to look at the supply of oil to buy and sell as an investment, as opposed to the oil you buy and sell to consume.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. Drop In Consumption = Drop In Market Demand = Drop In Price Per Barrel
eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 06:30 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Yet the evidence says otherwise
Oil prices doubles in an environment of steady supply and steady consumption, with no changes to the stragtegic areas that produce the oil.


There was a rise in market demand for ownership of oil as an investment vehicle, not as a raw material. It's like how the stock price of a company can shoot up and down, especially on an IPO... despite the fact that the company's daily revenue was the same a week before the IPO and a week after, the price of an IPO stock and easily treble, based soley on the market demand for the physical shares of stock.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 07:41 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. I Don't Buy The Speculation Argument
eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:27 PM
Response to Original message
6. I think it has been reported that these fields have more proven oil reserves...
than ANWR? They really don't know how much is in ANWR but they do know how much is in these oil reserves.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 06:50 PM
Response to Original message
9. They've been sitting on the Pt. Thomson leases
for thirty years, which is why the state moved to cancel them. Exxon is no friend of Alaska, and they prove it again and again.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 06:53 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. Who can forget the Exxon Valdez? nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 11:19 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC