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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:25 PM
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Oops Miss Prejean is about to be sent packing
Bubye!!!

Live news conference on GEM$NBC.
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KathieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:26 PM
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1. Yep...this is good.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:27 PM
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3. The Directors are pissed
Damn! This is hilarious.
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:28 PM
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6. They aren't holding back! n/t
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KathieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:29 PM
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7. Yes, it was just getting good, then MSNBC ended their coverage. Booooooo!
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:30 PM
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10. I know! High drama! I want more! lol
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:26 PM
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2. This is a very interesting press conference! n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:30 PM
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9. I can't believe it
They are unbelievably serious. The only part I liked was where the took the Family lady to task but I can't understand why beauty pageant directors take what they do so seriously. That's the hilarious part.
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:28 PM
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4. Please feed the cuberats!
Or, rather, those who don't have access to cable or satellite TV, in or out of a cube.
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KathieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:33 PM
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14. First they went after her for breaking her contract, then...
they went after the National Organization for Marriage people for recruiting her and ruining her career.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:57 PM
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52. Excellent!
Especially the second part!
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:28 PM
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5. did she get nailed or not?
....
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:31 PM
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11. Hammered
:D
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:29 PM
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8. As they say in the South, if you can't say something nice.....
"chirp, chirp, chirp....." ;)



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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:38 PM
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19. "Well, bless her li'l ole heart!"
:evilgrin:
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:31 PM
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12. Who is THIS guy?
He's Ripping into Maggie Gallagher, and the other right wing hand jobs that could not wait to get Prejean spouting their shit.
He said they knew they were helping her to violate her contract but they didn't care.

It's been awhile since I've seen someone let loose on live TV like that.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:32 PM
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13. No doubt that's why GEM$NBC cut the Press
Conference. The lady wasn't playing nice either. :rofl:
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:33 PM
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16. Was this about her boob job?
nt
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KathieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:36 PM
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18. No, it was about her not disclosing her semi-nude pics when she applied, and for getting involved...
with the anti-gay marriage organization. She broke her contract twice.
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cherish44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:55 PM
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27. When she turns in her crown will she have to give back the boobs too?
I think she should dammit!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:02 PM
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36. rrrrrip lol
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:04 PM
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37. Maybe James Dobson will repay them for
that job.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:33 PM
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15. The Donald gets the last word. Bye-bye Virgrin Alarm? n/t
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:34 PM
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17. someone just asked about the "danger" of having 2 Miss Californias
awkward? Confusing? Amusing? Yes.

but "Dangerous" :rofl:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:40 PM
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20. That's why it's so damned hilarious
This stupidity isn't dangerous or serious.
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jimmybama Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:47 PM
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23. Buh Byy 2 Miss Kaliphoneyboobies
Now she can hit the wack job talk shoe circuit. I bet she does
The View, She can fit right in Lizzy Hasslebooby!! Maybe Sean
Hannity will let her waterboard him!!  I can just see that.
Count to 60 and then let him up. She says, what comes after
50. She is one priceless dipship. This reminds me of our
President's famous words. You can't just make this shit up!!
Too funny
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:50 PM
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24. You're late
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:53 PM
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25. The state is less safe then it was this morning.
:rofl:
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:41 PM
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21. Sorry she lost her title
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:44 PM
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22. Why? She's a hateful repug that used her position that represents all of CA to represent
nutbags.

I say BYE BYE BEEEOIOTCH.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:55 PM
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26. +1
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:00 PM
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53. She's gonna milk this shit for all it's worth.
The poster child of the Wingnuts!
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:54 PM
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67. Uhm ...the milk has gone bad. Quote Rick James
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:05 PM
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68. Is that a fake boob joke?
:rofl:
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:36 PM
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74. +1....
...I do not want her rep'ing my state.

Fucking dumb homophobic bigot...and those are her good points. Well, yeah, excepting the two on her chest.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:57 PM
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28. I know, it's tragic. Crying here.
:rofl:
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:58 PM
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30. Maybe god will provide her a new country to be beauty queen of.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:59 PM
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31. An opposite country, even.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:01 PM
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54. Lol!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:01 PM
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34. You're cracking me up here
:rofl:
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:58 PM
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29. I don't think it matters much to her. Especially since the question was designed to get only one
response.

Why ask it in the first place?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:00 PM
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33. Yeah, she was baited by teh gay, poor thing.
Oops, forgot you have me on ignore :rofl:
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:05 PM
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38. Actually, I took you off.
I figured I would rather try to have rational discussions with people and let the other members decide who was acting like an adult and who was merely trolling.

We've discussed this before, but you refused to address it directly, but I'll ask again:

If someone is interested in one opinion only (on any subject), why ask someone what their opinion is and then get upset and tell them how (in terms of tone AND content) they SHOULD have answered?

What's the point of that?

(I don't think Perez baited her. That's your word, not mine. Judging from what I've seen of him, he's not that clever. I think it's more likely that he's not very bright, so he fails to see the absurdity of asking someone to give their opinion when it's clear that he wasn't interested in an opinion, but rather a recitation of a particular position.)
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:08 PM
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40. Thank you.
We can have a fresh start.

Personally I don't think either Perez or Prejean are rocket scientists. I am just marvelling at how Prejean now said she seized the moment to witness for Jesus, because she knew Satan was tempting her. When you watch the tape you can see that she is just babbling semi-coherently ("opposite marriage") and if thinking on your feet was the reason for having this "question for the crown", she failed! :)
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:11 PM
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41. I agree; her answer was not polished and was incoherent.
But again, I'm wondering: If someone is interested in only one answer to a question -- a question of opinion, to boot -- why ask it at all?

Perez didn't simply reply by saying that he disagreed with her. His video response that night was a "Here's how she SHOULD have answered" response, and it was the way he wanted it answered, not in terms of coherence or polished language or anything like that, but rather a particular position on an issue.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:18 PM
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42. I never saw his video answer...
Truthfully you should judge the potential "queen" on backing up her position, no matter what it is. From that standpoint, she would not have won no matter what her answer, so his response was out of line. A judge of any subjective competition do best to keep their mouths shut post-competition anyhow.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:22 PM
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44. I would have voted the same way, based on how she presented her answer. (edited)
Edited on Mon May-11-09 02:23 PM by dem629
It wasn't presented well, and as you said, that's enough to prevent her from winning. So we agree on that.

EDIT: And we also agree that she's a wacko with all the Satan talk.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:28 PM
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45. "What's the point of that?"
To determine whether or not she was qualified for the award.

Turns out she wasn't.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:33 PM
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46. Qualified based on her ability to answer coherently, or qualified based on her opinion?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:39 PM
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47. Disqualified that she's an embarassment to intelligent, decent human beings.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:53 PM
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50. Because of the incoherent answer, or because of her opinion on the issue?
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:03 PM
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56. She's being sacked for breach of contract and false statements
NOT for her answer to that question. Sorry.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:05 PM
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58. I don't think anyone in this thread alleged that she was.
The discussion here is about the question itself, and why it was asked if there was (in some people's minds) only one correct opinion.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:49 PM
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66. Both.
Duh.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:19 PM
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71. LOL. Weasel answer.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:33 PM
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72. Are you judging me based on my opinion?
Wouldn't that make you a hypocrite as well?
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:36 PM
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73. Trolling again, I see.
You'll have to find someone else who's willing to give you attention today. Sorry.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:36 PM
Response to Reply #73
75. Me? Trolling?
I'm not the one defending the crazy RW homophobe.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:44 PM
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78. No one here is defending her position on the issue she was asked about.
But you know that.

So, yes, you're trolling, contributing nothing of substance to the discussion.

You can take your last jab here. Have a nice evening. :hi:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:52 PM
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79. What, exactly, are you contributing to the discussion?
The suggestion that answers to questions shouldn't be used to judge contestants in the question and answer portion of a competition?
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:41 PM
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48. Her incoherence on her answer probably was enough to take her out of the running
and if Perez had left it alone Carrie would be a footnote in pagaent history.

Instead, he's responsible for basically creating her celebrity because he had to pull outrage over the specific answer she gave which isn't what the contestants are supposed to be judged on to begin with.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:53 PM
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51. Agree 100%.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:12 PM
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64. He's a much of a media whore as she is.
The question was picked at random. Had she not picked it she wouldn't have the fame she wants. Same with Piglet Hilton
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #29
35. Well, it would be nice if they could make sure they weren't selecting a bigot
since, in theory, these people are supposed to represent the country and what not.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:06 PM
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39. Miss NC won the pageant. What is her position on gay marriage?
If it's important know that (as you are stating here) then we should know, right?

So...what is it?
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:04 PM
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57. I agree that it was a loaded question
However, I'm having trouble generating much sympathy for socially conservative fundies. I have some trouble generating sympathy for beauty queens in general. She has, apparently, violated her contract. Often what happens when you go around shoveling shit on people. I know very few social conservatives who practice what they preach.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:06 PM
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59. I don't disagree with any of that.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #21
32. I'm sorry she lost her mind and hates gay people.
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Boomerang Diddle Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:18 PM
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43. Anyone else get the feeling she was never in the running for
Miss Congeniality? lol
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #43
65. Take it with a grain of salt ..
I've read stories on the internets from people that say they work for the Miss California pageant and they say she's a total diva and treats everyone like shit.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:53 PM
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49. She's a brat, but I don't support this kind of repression...
I hate the hang-ups Americans have over nudity and sexuality, and to have a photograph this bland and innocuous be the basis for any sort of disqualification is just ridiculous. There are hundreds of beaches right here in the US where it's perfectly acceptable to wear that little or less.

Who made her body? Your answer is either God or Nature, and either way, why would you suppress something that God created or is the most natural state of being?

Of course, her boobs may be a medical miracle, but that's irrelevant.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:01 PM
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55. True. But she signed a contract saying she didn't.
It ain't repression, it's contract law. :shrug:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:06 PM
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61. Exactly. It's a simple matter of being honest.
I think beauty pageants in general are ridiculous. But if you're gonna be in one, and you sign their contract, you gotta play by their rules.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:06 PM
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60. No only that - she is not fulfilling her contract - shes not showing up for her obligations
Edited on Mon May-11-09 03:07 PM by FreeState
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/05/miss-california-1.html

The local pageant does not have the authority to fire Prejean as Miss California. Only Donald Trump and the Miss Universe organization can do that. Pageant officials said they would be willing to work with Carrie Prejean, but every time they reach out to her, they are confronted by an army of her handlers and haven’t been able to talk with her.

“Up to now, it’s been very difficult to get in touch with her," said Shanna Moakler, executive director of the California pageant.

----

By contract she must be available to talk with pageant officials.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:10 PM
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63. Donald Trump has the last word on this.
The Miss California peeps are recommending to him that she lose her title.

Miss Ol' Carrie is on her way to NY to suck off ..... I mean meet with Trump before the press conference tomorrow.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:07 PM
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62. She freely entered into a contract.
Edited on Mon May-11-09 03:09 PM by Bluenorthwest
And frankly, she stands for the suppression of others as God made them, so that is one hell of an argument to pick.
She's a promoter of hard core Christian morals, not a free love advocate. She'd be opposed to a topless beach. She's opposed to other people being free to live as they are.
So ha ha on her. Ms. Holy Drawers is a big liar who can not keep her word in a simple business agreement.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:08 PM
Response to Reply #62
69. Very true...
I belong in Scandanavia or something...
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:13 PM
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70. I am awestruck this is considered news
to the extent that they'd air a live news conference. So absurd.
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OHDEM Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #70
76. Nobody even watches the pagent but it gets news .....
coverage. Who cares about teenagers with big hair and fake boobs? Okay...some of you guys maybe, but not me.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:38 PM
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77. I'm sure that
Donald will let her stay. I really don't care any way, but I can see the pageant people being pissed about her doing things that broke the contract. Donald however will just use it for more publicity and try to get her a reality show or something.
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