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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:43 PM
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Miss California to James Dobson: 'Satan Was Trying to Tempt Me' with gay marriage question
"Three weeks after becoming a hero to conservative Christians with her answer to a gay marriage question at the Miss USA pageant, Carrie Prejean hits the big kahuna of Christian radio this week, appearing today and tomorrow on James Dobson's daily Focus on the Family program.

In the most intriguing part of today's interview, Prejean describes the battle between God and Satan as she was formulating her response to Miss USA judge Perez Hilton's thorny question. I haven't heard her describe those moments in such starkly religious terms before. Here's the transcript:"


Dobson: It sounded, Carrie, like your first reaction was to hedge, to say "Well, this is a free country" and then something took over.

Prej ean: It really was a switch.

Dobson: And you did one of the most courageous things I've seen anybody your age or anybody else do. What was going on in your mind?

Prejean: I started off by saying I want to win this pageant so bad, I've worked so hard, I wanted to sound politically correct but still stay true to my values. But I just knew at that moment that God was just telling me "Carrie, how bad do you want this? Are you willing to compromise your beliefs for a one year crown of Miss USA." And I just knew right there . . . And I said you know what and the switch went off. And I said, "A marriage should be between a man and a woman and that's how it should be. "

. . . . And I knew there was no way I was going to win Miss USA. No way.

Dobson: So you put it on the line, that's what I mean when I said you're courageous because this was the goal of your life to that point. And yet you gave it up. And yet the Lord is using you all over this country.

Prejean: And we are all faced with that at times. And just by me being here, I want to encourage other people that when you're faced with an issue which you know in your heart what to say, but you're faced with someone asking it, don't ever compromise that just for pleasing them. Your goal should be to please God, not to please man . . . .

Dobson: Why did you give the answer you did with regard to the affirmation of marriage?

Prejean: . . . I felt as though Satan was trying to tempt me in asking me this question. And then God was in my head and in my heart saying, "Do not compromise this. You need to stand up for me and you need to share with all these people . . . you need to witness to them and you need to show that you're not willing to compromise that for this title of Miss USA."

And I knew right here that it wasn't about winning. It was about being true to my convictions.


http://www.usnews.com/blogs/god-and-country/2009/05/11/miss-california-to-james-dobson-satan-was-trying-to-tempt-me.html
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:45 PM
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1. Stupidity...
...the gift that keeps on giving.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:46 PM
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2. I think she got God's and Satan's messages backwards.
Edited on Mon May-11-09 01:46 PM by jobycom
Not that I believe in either, but if God is love, and Satan is hate, she chose hate.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:47 PM
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3. Holy fucking dead man on a stick!
Did she REALLY say that???? The only intelligence question they must ask applicants is "Do you know what a boob job is?"

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bkkyosemite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:48 PM
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4. she needed to stand up for God!
:eyes:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:48 PM
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5. Her true convictions appear to to taking off her clothes
and then lying about it.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:48 PM
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6. The sanctimony is overwhelming.
Edited on Mon May-11-09 01:49 PM by madaboutharry
It really is astounding how they glorify their stupid world view.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:49 PM
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7. Perez Hilton is Satan?
:scared:

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:57 PM
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43. I FUCKING KNEW IT! nt
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:50 PM
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8. You'd think God could come up with something better than "opposite marriage"
I think the Old Boy is slipping. But in the heat of the moment maybe the Creator of the Universe clutched and couldn't remember the phrase "traditional marriage." Sure seemed to be on the ball with Moses, though. Or maybe we just have the benefit of a couple thousand years of editing so that we get "Let my people go," when Moses really said something like, "Make the Israelites un-slaves."

I foresee a very lucrative career for Miss Prejean on the fundamentalist lecture circuit, drawing fat honoraria for telling people what they want to hear and dressing it up as orthodoxy.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:51 PM
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11. ROFLOL!
:thumbsup:
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:55 PM
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17. She was in the grips of Satan as she said that we can choose between...
...same-sex marriage and "opposite marriage."

Blame Satan for not giving her the phrase "traditional marriage."

It was only as she ended her answer that she broke free of Satan and spoke for God.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XMvviFbkf0


(I'm an atheist paraphrasing what she said on the radio show.)
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:38 PM
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52. Based on his creations, it's obvious that God ain't that smart
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:50 PM
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9. "And yet the Lord is using you all over this country."
as are millions of men who have your nudie pics on their harddrives.

And what was Satan tempting her to do: think or something? Her answer was barely even coherent.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:52 PM
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13. I bet half of San Diego used her already, but I digress.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:41 PM
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30. the Lord works in mysterious ways indeed. nt
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:51 PM
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10. So did Satan tempt her to pose nude?
Where was God then?
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 11:52 PM
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66. Apparently. Funny how that works, huh?? nt
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SteelPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:51 PM
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12. God talked to you eh?
Did you bother to listen?

"I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God." (NIV, 1 Timothy 2:9-10)

"Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes. Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight. For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful." (NIV, 1 Peter 3:2-5)

Stuff your "Christian" values, Ms. Prejean. You are just another hypocrite.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:54 PM
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14. So now we know Satan's idenenty, he's the guy in the
pageant who asks the contestants questions. We should have him arrested for all the evil in the world.:wow: Does anyone know his name?
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jakefrep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:54 PM
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15. Why would she care if she loses the pageant?
She's set for a good long while making the rounds on the Christian-victimhood lecture circuit.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:15 PM
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27. "Christian victimhood lecture circuit - LOL
Yep! You nailed it. :rofl:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:19 PM
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29. +1
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:55 PM
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16. Good lord this woman is NUTS!
Edited on Mon May-11-09 01:56 PM by Political Tiger
Did God tell her to put on a skimpy bikini and parade her half naked body and fake boobs in front of millions of people on TV? What about the children? What about all the men "lusting" after her?

What part of 1 Timothy 2;9-13 does she NOT understand:

In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 2:10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:58 PM
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18. So being true to the New Testament means opposing female teachers? NT
NT
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:06 PM
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22. Someone needs to snap a shot of her eating a lobster.
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:20 PM
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38. For some denominations, it does
Edited on Mon May-11-09 03:22 PM by Rob H.
I have a friend who was trying to get a teaching gig at a local Southern Baptist megachurch to do some leadership training, and she almost didn't get the job because there were going to be male students in the class. For the Southern Baptists, it's okay for men to teach men and women, and okay for women to teach women, but a woman teaching men? Nope. That's also why they don't allow female pastors.

Full disclosure: She did get the job, but only after finding a Bible verse that apparently made it okay.
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SalviaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 01:59 PM
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19. Holy Shit!!
no brains, no headache
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Boomerang Diddle Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:03 PM
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20. So both God and Satan watch the Miss USA contest?
Who knew both God and Satan were so horny?

And if God was on her side, why did He let her lose?
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:05 PM
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21. You're right! He should have smote the judge!
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:11 PM
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24. God only does virgins.
So it must have been the other guy.

I would have asked her how many times she had sex out of wedlock, and then stoned her for being a harlot.

Hey, it's in the same book she likes to quote.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:08 PM
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23. Prejan and Dobson
Compound stoopid.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:12 PM
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25. Talk about setting the bar low
"And you did one of the most courageous things I've seen anybody your age or anybody else do." ....WTF


Dobson better put down the Bible and pick up a dictionary and figure out the fucking definition of courageous.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:47 PM
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31. I wonder what WW II veterans feel about Carrie's courage "under fire"
Hell, let's ask rescue workers and firefighters in NYC on 9/11/2001 what they think about Carrie's courage.

A whole lot of stupid exists in the world but Dobson's statement has to be in the top 10 for the time being.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:13 PM
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26. Am I the only one who sees a real problem with Miss Virtue
parading around her huge fake tits spilling out of a tiny bikini suit like some Jezebel, driving weak men to the sin of spilling their seed, trying to pretend she's the arbiter of everybody else's morals?

What the fuck are these people thinking?
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:52 PM
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32. Satan probably tempted her to do that too.
Didn't she have some pictures out there too? They have such a way with manipulating religion to suit their version.


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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:56 PM
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42. "Your goal should be to please God, not to please man"
I guess these people are thinking God is pleased by fake boobs - although one wonders why he didn't just create them the way he wanted them to begin with. Oh well, maybe she's qualified to improve on his work.

Part of what annoys the hell out of me isn't just her, though. It the California beauty folks running a state-wide contest to find the absolute most pleasing woman - and then deciding after she's been declared the prettiest woman in all the land - paying for cosmetic surgery for her. That's some serious misogyny right there, to decide that NO real woman meets their standard without medical intervention. I haven't seen much discussion on that point.

It's an epic duel between Bigotry, Hypocrisy and Stupid ... hard to predict sometimes which will come out on top.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:52 PM
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56. No, we pretty much
all see for what it is.

Only the hypocrites want another high profile one to join their ranks:silly::freak:
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 07:00 PM
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60. Yea...about that thinking part...
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:18 PM
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28. Oh please



:puke:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:01 PM
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33. morons for god. nt
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:02 PM
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34. If it wasn't about winning, why has she been whining ever since she lost? nt
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:03 PM
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35. satan did`t offer her improved fun- bags-----it was the lord!
praise the lord! they have been filled with the holy silicone spirit!!!
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:18 PM
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46. They move in mysterious ways n/t
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:05 PM
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36. Wow can we imply that Satan is on a first name basis w Prejean and personally selected her?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:07 PM
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37. If there really is a God.... then....
Miss Prejean will someday fall in love with a woman.

Might change her perspective a bit.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:28 PM
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39. A friend just sent me a link to a "send Carrie encouragement" page
on her college's website. I fought the temptation to send Carrie something other than encouragement.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:53 PM
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40. As Flip Wilson's Geraldine
would say: "The devil made me do it!"
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:56 PM
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41. "And Here's Miss California!"


Come on, Dobson, I dare you.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:58 PM
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44. Did Dobson like her satanic tits?
:eyes:

"And I knew right here that it wasn't about winning. It was about being true to my convictions."

Bullshit! She really thought she was speaking for all Americans, and was surprised when the shit hit the fan.

So much for "convictions"...

Fucking homophobic dumbass.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:02 PM
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45. "Satan is Real"
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:19 PM
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47. Oh, holy shit....
...as a California, I ask: When is this shit gonna end?

:puke:
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:22 PM
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48. Could it be.....SATAN??
Well, isn't that special!

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 11:00 PM
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62. :)
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:24 PM
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49. did satan choose her outfit for the swimsuit compeTITion?
or was that more of a godly call?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:32 PM
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50. This explains why her answer made no sense, she was speaking in tongues.
yes INDEED!
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cpompilo Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:33 PM
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51. "The devil made me do it".
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:40 PM
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53. Air headed bimbo...
... with voices in her head...

"no matter How beautiful some woman is, some guy some where, is sick of her shit." ~Chris Rock
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:42 PM
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54. Breaking: Photo of Carrie with Satan
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 12:29 AM
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64. ---
:spray:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:43 PM
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55. I'll ask the obvious..
Who was it that "tempted" her with her boob job and then lying about it?

Was it Satan or that greedy little voice in her head that says..she's all that and deserves more, more, more...?
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:59 PM
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57. was it god or satan who told her to take the naked pictures?
O8) :evilfrown:
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 07:00 PM
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61. better gif
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:06 PM
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58. and yet she CHOSE SATAN -- more celebrity and riches await her now than ever
the typical miss usa is a minor and temporary celebrity.

even assuming she would have otherwise won (hardly a given) she surely knew she was guaranteed fame and riches as a right-wing media darling. the one thing the right-wing has going for it is LOTS of money. and isn't that one of satan's favorite lures?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:58 PM
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59. If she were standing up for God she wouldn't be prancing around
in a skimpy bathing suit, or long expensive dresses because that smacks of vanity. Oh and let's not forget her lies about those half nude pictures.....Well hell why doesn't she just get a burka and the rest of the outfit...remove her fake boobs....and submit to her chosen husband.

She want's to play both sides....
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bkkyosemite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 11:43 PM
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65. And she thinks God needs sticking up for...like he is at her level.
:eyes:

The famous religious thinking that somehow God and them are equal ....and at the same level...stick up for God he can't stick up for himself...oh oh I hear Thunder............
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RomanHoliday Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 12:05 AM
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63. I bet Satan also got her that fake tan.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:06 AM
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67. "The devil made me do it"
Oh Jesus! :rofl:
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:35 AM
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68. Satan hates stupidity, according to the bible.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 04:24 AM
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69. That Satan sure loves playing jokes on fundies. Punked again!
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