Why should we take seriously - a promise from the health care industry to cut its own growth.

TheCoxwain

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Mon May-11-09 04:38 PM
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Why should we take seriously - a promise from the health care industry to cut its own growth.

Its like an alcoholics promise not to drink

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spanone

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Mon May-11-09 04:39 PM
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1. if they can cut 'future' costs by trillions and still make profits, they must be screwing us good

Edited on Mon May-11-09 04:40 PM by spanone

this is an end round single payer imho

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dflprincess

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Mon May-11-09 04:44 PM
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2. They'll "save" the trillions

by denying more claims.

These crooks have been robbing us blind for years and "our" elected officials think we're dumb enough to believe that now they'll be honest. Not unlike Greenspan thinking the banks would regulate themselves and not be so greedy. :banghead:

I sure hope their souls were worth those campaign donations.

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Oregone

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Mon May-11-09 04:47 PM
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5. Also

They will save trillions by treating the unfunded "public option" as a repository for their high-risk customers. If they can deny coverage to anyone they deem unprofitable, and push them towards the public option, they stand to make trillions more than they are promising to save Americans. Essentially, they will cherry pick health care consumers, such that they will very rarely have to (statistically speaking) pay out claims. This is a major bonus for them.

On the flipside, guess what that does to the "public option".

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dflprincess

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Mon May-11-09 07:54 PM
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7. It's been pretty clear that any public option will be set up to fail

in his town hall last month even Obama refered to a public option as being for people who couldn't get insurance elsewhere.

Another thing I haven't heard is how will they fund the public option. Will you still have to be employed to actually be able to afford it?
And what happens if you wind up unemployed are you still stuck with COBRA?

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Oregone

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Mon May-11-09 09:12 PM
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8. From what I understand, it will not be funded.

It will operate and subsidize low income customers purely from premiums collected. Its just an underfunded, anemic public-owned insurance company. Its not reform.

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Oregone

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Mon May-11-09 04:44 PM
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3. Remember, they are only promising to cut the rate at which costs grow

Costs will still grow. The language being used to push this is one big mindfuck

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SoCalNative

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Mon May-11-09 04:45 PM
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4. Who says they'll cut their own growth?

I took their "promise" of cost-cutting measures to mean there will be just more and more things they will refuse to cover. And their contracted payout amts will get smaller and smaller.

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damntexdem

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Mon May-11-09 05:14 PM
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6. Because they've always been so open and honest with us?

Because the government has always shown that it will punish them if they fail in their promises?

Oh, OK, I give up! Why should we?

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