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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 01:13 PM
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We've waterboarded before:
Edited on Wed May-13-09 01:17 PM by Subdivisions

http://blog.buzzflash.com/contributors/1416

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HISTORY OF WATER TORTURE

The use of water to simulate drowning has been used as a torture device since at least the Middle Ages. It was known as the tortura del agua during the Spanish Inquisition and was used by agents of the Dutch East India Company during the Amboyna massacre in 1623.

Water torture has been acknowledged by the United States to be illegal since at least 1901 when an Army officer was convicted and sentenced to 10 years imprisonment for using it to torture a Philippine rebel.

In 1947, a Japanese officer was prosecuted by the United States for strapping a U.S. civilian to a tilted stretcher and pouring water over his face until he agreed to talk. The officer was convicted of a Violation of the Laws and Customs of War and was sentenced to 15 years of hard labor.

In 1957, French forces in Algeria tortured journalist Henri Alleg by strapping him to a plank and wrapping his head in a cloth placed under a running water tap. Alleg later talked about his torture in The Question: "The rag was soaked rapidly. Water flowed everywhere: in my mouth, in my nose, all over my face. But for a while I could still breathe in some small gulps of air. I tried, by contracting my throat, to take in as little water as possible and to resist suffocation by keeping air in my lungs for as long as I could. But I couldn't hold on for more than a few moments. I had the impression of drowning, and a terrible agony, that of death itself, took possession of me. In spite of myself, all the muscles of my body struggled uselessly to save me from suffocation. In spite of myself, the fingers of both my hands shook uncontrollably."


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In 1968, The Washington Post published a photograph of an American soldier supervising the use of water torture on a North Vietnamese prisoner. The victim was being held down as water was poured over a cloth covering his nose and mouth to induce "a flooding sense of suffocation and drowning meant to make him talk." The soldier was charged, convicted, and discharged from the Army.

In 2005, the U.S. State Department's review of Tunisia's poor human rights record included "submersion of the head in water" as a form of "torture and other cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment" of detainees.

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If the use of water toture, or "waterboarding" has prosecuted precedents in the United States, then how does Lyndsey Graham justify his defense of it in today's hearings? "They saw the law as a nicety we could not afford," Graham said.

I say, considering the U.S. has prosecuted this before, we should hold to the precedent that has been set!

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 01:15 PM
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1. Shiny Happy Torturers
Your tax dollars at work!

Yay!

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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 01:15 PM
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2. Your question is pretty simple
"how does Lyndsey Graham justify his defense of it in today's hearings?"

Above the law.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 01:23 PM
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3. I was not aware that anyone was convicted for our use of
"the water cure" as it was called, in the Phillipines. I don't think that its use was limited to one time or one soldier. Troops were writing home about it.

If anyone has the info; on the specifics of the trial, etc., please PM me.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 01:25 PM
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4. I did some limited searching of trial info for this OP but it was
not readily forthcoming. I would also be interested in this if anyone can add to it.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 01:27 PM
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5. I heard Olberman say that
I would like to read the record.
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 01:40 PM
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6. "They saw the law as a nicety we could not afford," Graham said.
I can scarcely believe a sitting United States Senator would ever allow such a foul phrase to pass his lips.
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