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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:15 PM Original message |
Sadly, the right has won the torture debate. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. Not even close to correct. |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I wish that were true |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. The "coverage" is not the reality of what's actually happening. |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. That's my point |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
41. Time is on our side. Have you seen some of the movies coming |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. it might be more germane to look at some of the |
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lordsummerisle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. It's very sad |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. So you've given up too huh? |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Given up on what. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. The OP said the GOP has "won" the debate. Past tense. |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. it is not over. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. It's over. With the C-I-C now backing Bush's "Military Commisions", it's clear that |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I'm sure she's happy right now |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
7. Tighten your seat belt, baby... it's far from over. |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I hope not. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
11. we are in the 2nd inning, this thing has barely come out |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
12. Not yet. Seems to me Cheney/GOP/CIA are getting desperate. They are on the wrong side of this |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. And yet |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Media |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Read my OP |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Huh? |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Yeah |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Well |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
15. Uh, no. That's not the case. nt |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. What's that a response too?? |
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MzNov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
17. The Right hasn't won anything. |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I would like to see that. |
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MzNov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. sigh. we'll probably be dealing with this for many years to come. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
19. It **ought** to be criminal! |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
20. Well, the Right sure is happy the Photos arent being released |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
24. Horse puckey! |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Well reasoned. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. I do not abide defeatism. |
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SalviaBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
26. This is far from over. Pace yourselves. |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I don't think the issue of torture is over |
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SalviaBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. We often have to push the press to places they don't want to go. |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
28. With all due respect: BULLSHIT |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
31. No. I think they are digging a big hole. |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Yeah |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Well, they don't come up for election. |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
35. No, it's not over yet... |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Not over |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
42. Once it was allowed to become a debate it was lost |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
45. K&R |
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Puzzler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
46. Yep... it seems that the whole debate has morphed into... |
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