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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:26 PM
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The Slow Agonizing Damnation of Empire USA
I admit it's happening quickly for way too many people, but in general most working Americans are slumping into the crash. Bit by bit folks with jobs have been losing benefits and zero wage increases for many years now. Lately it seems they are all being knocked down from full-time to part-time or they're having to take 5%+ salary cuts. We all know the banks ain't giving any money out.

So. No shoppers. No buyers. No vacationers. No home improvementers.

Fuck You house-flippers and short-sellers and over-extended shopaholics.

There needs to be a HUGE paradigm shift in this country. NOW.

Government $$$ needs to be re-directed from MIC to Green jobs NOW. Infrastructure jobs NOW. Yeah, I hear ya Nancy, You're gonna bring out a sweeping health care reform before Your wittle recess. It better be a GOOD ONE FOR THE PEOPLE not the INSURANCE COMPANIES. And oh yeah, how come YOU get a recess and American citizens DON'T?

Somebody got that pie chart graphic of where the Fed money goes? You know where the MIC is the largest piece?

Thanks in advance.



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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:28 PM
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1. I used to read your comics when I was a kid.
And no, I don't fucking believe it!

:kick:
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:43 PM
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3. Ahem.
Which part do you not believe?

Is life a party for you?
Are you an inheritance baby?
Doing great with Carlyle investments?
Finding new and improved ways to lie and cheat people into buying shit they don't need?

(Just part of my comic storyline.)


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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:31 PM
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2. well said
Edited on Fri May-15-09 08:31 PM by ixion
kicked and recommended. :applause:
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:49 PM
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4. Not the chart I'm looking for, but there is this:


Why?

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rgbecker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:55 PM
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5. OMG the Russians are going to bury us! We'll need at least 50,000 nukes to hold them off.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:58 PM
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6. Russia = 5% but LATIN AMERICA = 3%
So we must FEAR THE SALSA!
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:12 PM
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the elephant in the room
that no one wants to talk about.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 11:13 PM
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14. The US exports security. The problem is the payment system.
Seriously, I watched a program on PBS about it and it was very interesting.
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questforfreedom Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:10 PM
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7. End of US empire =
Huge depression hits, we are forced to pull out of our world bases all over the world because we can no longer pay off foreign countries, Russian and China fill in the vacuum including in latin America, nuclear warheads are brought over by them and pointed at us, we are given the option of disarming and allowing nuclear inspectors or facing total annhilation
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:25 PM
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11. That is an insane scenario.
Edited on Fri May-15-09 10:41 PM by Ripley
We should READILY pull out of our world bases and let people police their own damn states in places like Japan and Europe.

Oh, but that's not where the REAL money is in the Pentagon black hole. And you know it.

On edit: Why did the CIA torture you?



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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 11:57 PM
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16. "pull out of our world bases ... 'cuz we can 'NO LONGER PAY OFF FOREIGN COUNTRIES'" ---
Edited on Fri May-15-09 11:58 PM by smalll
that's how we're NOT an "empire."

Empires don't "pay off" foreign countries for the privilege of stationing troops there. Empires CONQUER countries then force the subjugated provinces to pay.

The Roman Empire was an Empire. The Assyrian Empire was one. So too the Persian Empire. Why, they even had some in Africa, didn't they? Mali, Songhai, Great Zimbabwe ...

Do you remember those places running out of money and then having to leave foreign countries because they didn't have enough dosh to pay off the locals to let them say?

Anyone, anyone? Bueller, Bueller?
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:47 AM
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17. "Nuclear warheads are brought over by them and pointed at us..."
:wtf:

Paranoid, much?

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:10 PM
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8. Where Your Income Tax Money Really Goes (War Resisters League)
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:27 PM
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12. Thanks for That!
Big chunk.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 04:56 PM
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19. In the future we won't even be paying that stuff.
Edited on Sat May-16-09 04:57 PM by truedelphi
Every single penny will end up going to the Private Bank that is lending us back the 9 trillion bucks that Obama has allowed Bernanke and Geithner to hand out so Wall Street can keep on keeping on. Unless, of course, the IMF or the World Bank step in to rescue us.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:12 PM
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9. Income Tax Chart - 2009

Enter the amount of Federal Income Tax you paid during 2008 and see how the government spent the money ...
http://www.nationalpriorities.org/taxchart2009
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:14 PM
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10. Can you stop this car and let me out, please?
I'm tired of this trip. I don't want to pay a trillion dollars a year on military adventures every year. Fuck the generals! I'm tired of being robbed by the wealthy assholes that think we don't deserve to have a health care system where we can go to the doctor if we get sick. I'm tired of paying a higher percentage of my meager wages in FICA taxes than Bill Fucking Gates and Warren Frigging Buffet. I'm tired of being screwed by the spineless politicians that don't seem to know right from wrong. I am tired of being disrespected by my own Party leaders who seem to think we are too stupid to see all the shit they are shoveling upon us. Screw them!
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:49 PM
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13. The trip is this:
Edited on Fri May-15-09 10:52 PM by Ripley
They try hard to disrupt and lure folks to the shiny side.

Lately more and more are shall we say "open" to moving to the shiny side.

They twitter.




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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 11:48 PM
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15. A thoughtful thread, Ripley.
Thank you. :)
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:02 PM
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18. You want to take out the MIC? Take out the rich fucks who are funding it.
Otherwise it won't die.
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