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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:44 PM
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Obama revives terror tribunals, dismaying liberals
Obama revives terror tribunals, dismaying liberals
LARA JAKES, Associated Press Writer Lara Jakes, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama said Friday he would reform and restart the military tribunals he once reviled for Guantanamo Bay detainees, jeopardizing his timetable for closing the prison by January and dismaying many supporters who suggested he was going back on campaign promises.

Now, after the detainees are given stronger legal protections — a ban on evidence obtained under cruel duress, for example — the trials of 13 defendants in nine cases will be restarted no sooner than September. Five of the 13 are charged with helping orchestrate the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The rest of the 241 Guantanamo detainees will either be released, transferred to other countries, tried in civilian U.S. federal courts or, potentially, held indefinitely as prisoners of war with full Geneva Conventions rights.

"This is the best way to protect our country, while upholding our deeply held values," Obama said, announcing his decision to renew the tribunals in a three-paragraph White House statement. The administration said he was not embracing the Bush-era system because it would be so significantly changed.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090516/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_guantanamo_trials
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:46 PM
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1. why would starting the process of clearing out Gitmo dismay liberals?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:50 PM
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4. Excellent point. This is the only way they could finish off the trials
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:30 PM
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9. Because of knee-jerk reactions to headlines... without reading the story
...
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lakiesel Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:47 PM
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2. yep this dismaying
what else can I say
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:48 PM
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3. Why would this dismay only liberals?
Don't conservatives believe in the Constitution?

Are conservatives not Americans?
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questforfreedom Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:55 PM
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6. Right on
I agree, this news should dismay all Americans
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:50 PM
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5. Good cop, bad cop, that's all that's going on here
Nothing else has changed, just good cop for bad cop.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:02 PM
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7. liberals stay home on election night, dismaying obama.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:28 PM
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8. If Obama used military tribunals to try white collar corporate criminals, I bet liberals would cheer
Hey, maybe that's a good idea, and would be a good way to mollify liberal criticisms of the tribunals: throw an AIG executive in front of one of these commissions and see if any liberals raise a peep in protest.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:35 PM
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10. You seem to have this mistaken idea that liberals are just conservatives
on the other side.

We actually believe in the rule of law and in justice, no matter who is at the bar.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:37 PM
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12. Gee, you really don't care for liberals do you?
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:37 PM
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11. I don't understand why I should be upset?
I want there to be trials for those that are suspected of doing wrong - I don't want people held indefinitely without trials.

I am totally missing something.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:39 PM
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13. Military tribunals operate outside of the scope of conventional criminal proceedings.
Example, hearsay is allowed.
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:45 PM
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14. thank you.
so a more appropriate action would be to hold trials rather than tribunals?

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 07:11 AM
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15. Only if you believe in our Constitution.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:53 PM
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16. +1
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