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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 05:59 AM
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Oklahoma to display Ten Commandments at the state Capitol
"One more step towards Oklahoma becoming an theocracy." The home to Sally Kern has a legislature and governor that approved the display of the Ten Commandments at the state Capitol. (The Oklahoman):

Had Henry vetoed House Bill 1330, it was likely the GOP-run Legislature would have overridden it, something that has occurred only once in the 61/2 years Henry has been governor. The measure easily passed both chambers: 83-2 in the House and 38-8 in the Senate.

...The American Civil Liberties Union of Oklahoma may file a lawsuit depending on how it fares with its challenge to a Ten Commandments monument in Haskell County, said Tamya Cox, the group's legislative counsel. "We're very disappointed the governor signed House Bill 1330," she said. "It usurped the First Amendment. Thankfully, we have until Nov. 1 before the monument could be erected, so we are going to definitely take our time."

...Sen. Randy Brogdon, Senate sponsor of HB 1330, said he is "tickled pink" the governor signed the measure.

"He chose to be with the people on this one," said Brogdon, R-Owasso. "It was widely supported by people around the state. I was pleasantly surprised."

I don't think we have to ask which way Sally voted.

http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/11053/oklahoma-to-display-ten-commandments-at-the-state-capitol
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:09 AM
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1. Why don't these "Christians" prefer the Sermon on the Mount? nt
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:14 AM
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3. Because it's hard to be a self-righteous asswipe
by following the words of Jesus instead of the Old Testament.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:11 AM
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2. Too bad all these clowns never actually follow the 10 commandments
There are only three actual laws covered by them-Don't kill, steal or lie. Coveting is a moral judgment and most of the rest are variations of "BOW DOWN TO SUPREME AUTHORITY"
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:16 AM
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6. I don't see any of them following the Sabbath, destroying graven images
or criticizing Gingrich, McCain, Giuliani etc for adultery.
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:14 AM
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4. Moses wrote the Ten Commandments while under the influence of shrooms
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:16 AM
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5. The first few commandments sound like they were written by someone with.....
...a severe insecurity complex.


I am the Lord your God
You shall have no other gods before me
You shall not make for yourself an idol
You shall not make wrongful use of the name of your God
Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:26 AM
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7. Jesus' Commandments...
“You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.” This is the greatest and first commandment. And a second is like it: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.’

Matthew 22:34-40

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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:39 AM
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8. K&R
:kick:
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RadicalTexan Donating Member (607 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:06 AM
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9. We have a statue of them on the Capitol lawn here in Texas
Edited on Wed May-20-09 08:06 AM by RadicalTexan
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:48 AM
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14. Same here in Missouri.
I've thought many times about complaining to the ACLU about it...
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:17 AM
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10. Once again, it's time for George Carlin's take on the Ten Commandments:
"Here is my problem with the ten commandments- why exactly are there 10?

You simply do not need ten. The list of ten commandments was artificially and deliberately inflated to get it up to ten. Here's what happened:

About 5,000 years ago a bunch of religious and political hustlers got together to try to figure out how to control people and keep them in line. They knew people were basically stupid and would believe anything they were told, so they announced that God had given them some commandments, up on a mountain, when no one was around."

(moving along)

"THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR"S GOODS

This one is just plain fuckin' stupid. Coveting your neighbor's goods is what keeps the economy going! Your neighbor gets a vibrator that plays "o come o ye faithful", and you want one too!"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

http://tamala-mind.blogspot.com/2008/06/george-carlin-10-commandments.html
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pnutbutr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:41 AM
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11. couple things here to get really specific
Since they actually passed a law to display the monument it could be considered unconstitutional but on the other hand...
"Congress shall make no law..." The Oklahoma legislature is not congress.

I don't care for these diaplay's either but taken literally it doesn't seem to violate the constitution.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:45 AM
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12. So, in your view the Oklahoma legislature
Could mandate that everyone must go to a Christian church on Sundays or face arrest, prosecution and prison time?

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pnutbutr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:48 AM
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13. technically yes n/t
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:54 AM
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16. Oklahoma's state Constitution
Section II-5: Public money or property - Use for sectarian purposes.

No public money or property shall ever be appropriated,
applied, donated, or used, directly or indirectly, for the use,
benefit, or support of any sect, church, denomination, or system
of religion, or for the use, benefit, or support of any priest,
preacher, minister, or other religious teacher or dignitary, or
sectarian institution as such.

http://oklegal.onenet.net/okcon/II-5.html

Me, I think that's a pretty good argument against the legality of using the State Capitol to display the Ten Commandments.

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pnutbutr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:56 AM
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17. There you go
It violates the state constitution. It should have never even been considered.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:50 AM
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15. Bibical shit ehhhh? Why not cut off hands and feet for criminals, stoning should be reinstated
Edited on Wed May-20-09 08:51 AM by opihimoimoi
No working on the Sabbath, etc etc???

BTW...did they ever think some, if not many, peeps would feel offended? No...them Xtians could give a rats ass ....

They should keep State and Church seperate...this makes for other religions to make a case for their own Public statues, monuments, etc...there is no end...
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:01 AM
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18. I also believe the Ten Commandments should be posted in Oklahoma --
tattooed on the right-wing hind ends of its two troglodyte U.S. Senators.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 10:15 AM
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19. Yet this great Christian state ranks 5th. highest in divorce, 20th. in the number of births to
single women, 6th. in the number of teenage mothers, 14th. in violent crime, 4th. in meth addiction, 4th. in the number of women killed by domestic violence, and number 1 in killing kids through abuse!
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