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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:53 PM
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147 Gang Members Indicted In California for Targeting Blacks
HAWAIIAN GARDENS, Calif. — A Latino street gang waged a racist campaign to eliminate the city's black residents through attempted murders and other crimes, according to federal racketeering indictments unsealed Thursday.

Five indictments charged a total of 147 members and associates of the Varrio Hawaiian Gardens gang, and federal and local agencies arrested 63 of them by early Thursday, U.S. Attorney Thomas P. O'Brien said at a news conference.

Another 35 defendants were already in custody on unrelated charges. Weapons and drugs worth more than $1 million also were seized in what O'Brien called "the largest gang takedown in United States history."

The indictments detail attempted murder, kidnapping, firearms, narcotics and other charges related to attacks by the gang, which is predominantly Latino and mainly operates in Hawaiian Gardens, a city of about 15,000 in southeastern Los Angeles County.

"(Varrio Hawaiian Gardens) gang members take pride in their racism and often refer to the VHG Gang as the `Hate Gang,'" the main indictment said. "VHG gang members have expressed a desire to rid the city of Hawaiian Gardens of all African-Americans and have engaged in a systematic effort to achieve that result by perpetrating crimes against African-Americans."

The indictment alleges a string of attacks on black residents, including a shooting into a home with eight people inside. The indictment does not say if anyone was hit.

In another instance, two gang members allegedly chased a black man, yelled a racist epithet at him and then beat him with a garden rake. The same man was later repeatedly stabbed by two gang members, according to the indictment, which charged them with his attempted murder.

According to 2000 census data, the latest available, Hawaiian Gardens was roughly 73 percent Hispanic and 4 percent black.

Hawaiian Gardens Mayor Michael Gomez welcomed the crackdown, saying: "Honest residents should not have to live in fear of lawless thugs who act like it's high noon at the OK Corral."

The indictments mark at least the second time in less than two years that federal authorities have accused Latino gang members of attacking black residents because of their race. Local officials have tried to downplay racial tensions.

The investigation of the Varrio Hawaiian Gardens gang began in June 2005 after the murder of Los Angeles County sheriff's Deputy Luis Gerardo "Jerry" Ortiz. Jose Luis Orozco, a member of the gang, was sentenced to death in 2007 for the killing.

Ortiz, 35, died as he searched for Orozco, who had shot and wounded a man while he did yard work. Orozco was later found guilty of attempted murder in that case.

"It was this hatred of African-Americans that may have spurred the attack on Deputy Jerry Ortiz, who was killed trying to arrest a gang member suspected of trying to shoot an African-American man in the back," O'Brien said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/21/147-gang-members-indicted_n_206594.html
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 12:12 AM
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1. something smells in this story
There are many stories lately about latinos hating blacks, like 70% of latinos didn't vote for Obama.

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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 12:21 AM
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2. Latinos voted heavily for Obama,and gang members are not your average Latino citizen just like
Bloods and Crips are not your average black citizen


Latinos turn out in force for Obama

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE4A49WO20081105

In Big Shift, Latino Vote Was Heavily for Obama

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/07/us/politics/07latino.html
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 12:34 AM
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3. yeah, you are right, gangs are not the average citizen
but when Bloods and Crips attack other races they are not accused of hate crimes.
interesting
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:10 AM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:14 AM
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5. LOL! It's too late! We're already here!
And Cruz was born in California. He's an American Democrat, not a "mexican".

:hi:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:37 AM
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:40 AM
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20. You mean yo se un poquito babelfish online translator? Idiot.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:46 AM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:42 AM
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21. LOL! Dirty Mexicans? Really?
Are you naked under those white sheets, big guy?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:48 AM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:50 AM
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28. I bet you have a signed picture of David Duke right next to you
down there in Mom's basement.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:17 AM
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7. You must be really pissed off about Asians in Cerritos and Indians in Artesia then
Assholes like you are not really appreciated here. NOT a good first post. "illegals and their spawn". Where in CA did you live? Not in Southeast Los Angeles County, that much is obvious. I was born in Norwalk in 1961. My best friends were Mexican. My first girlfriend was Mexican. My first wife was Mexican. It's not like they all the sudden just showed up. They've ALWAYS been there.

You, are an asshole. Enjoy your stay.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:18 AM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:21 AM
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10. It's too late. We'\re already there, too.
:rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:22 AM
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:23 AM
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13. You are NOT for real.
You ARE however, a total ass.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:25 AM
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14. I'd start learning Spanish NOW, hermanito.
lol
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:42 AM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:47 AM
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25. It's guys like you that gave me the motivation to get through school
so I'd never have to put up with guys like you.

Have a great night.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:38 AM
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19. Poor, poor downtrodden white heterosexual GOP Christian male. Everybody is agin' ya.
Edited on Fri May-22-09 01:38 AM by Bluebear
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:45 AM
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23. Hilarious.
I think I just lost 10 IQ points.

lol
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:16 AM
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6. It's saddening and frightening to see young people caught up
in this kind of horrible violence.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:23 AM
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12. You are right as always, but it isn't a new thing.
The kids I grew up with, went to school with, and played baseball with all wound up involved in VNWK, and some of them still are. Some of their CHILDREN are for goodness sake.

I have a very vivid memory of a friend, I'll call him Chico (that was his name, what a coincidence), who had the cooooolest lowered Impala. We had Auto Shop together as seniors at Norwalk High. Every Monday morning, I'd help Chico bondo the bullet holes he'd accumulated in his car over the weekend. That was 1979. He's dead now, by the way. Killed by some punk in a gang called Chivas, in the late 80's
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:29 AM
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16. I looked up the town in the OP. There's like 3,000 people there
and their main source of income is a casino. $34k a year median income for a family, but only $21k for males. More than a third of the pop is under 18 and a fifth is below poverty line. Damn.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:18 AM
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8. Whew, good thing they're going to prison where they can't engage in gang activity anymore...
oh wait.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:25 AM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:32 AM
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17. The Democrat Party? Lou, is that you fooling around again?
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:50 AM
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27. That's odd...
We have a couple gay bartender friends that were socked-up-hard and robbed by roving cars of AA males cruising the lavender district for what may have been easy marks :shrug: But if you've ever been to Hawaiian Gardens you'll know....it's another story down there
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:56 AM
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30. Welcome to DU, Third Class Citizen ~
:kick:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 02:08 AM
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32. This part of your argument conflicts with your claim up thread of anally raping one of my women.
Doesn't it? Unless you're black like I'm a Cherokee princess.

lol
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 02:34 AM
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38. I love the way you call "mexicans" dirty and rats and thieves but accuse bridgit
Edited on Fri May-22-09 02:35 AM by EFerrari
of bigotry. They don't make trolls as well as they used to.

The only bigot on this thread is you. How do you like your pizza?
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 02:14 AM
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33. That part is for me some of the more simple; there are *criminals* in what surely seems...
nearly every town in America these days, no? And yes: some of them are black. Yet that is only part of why I say Cheers! -- and Peace!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 02:18 AM
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 02:25 AM
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36. I am just a poor boy, though my story is seldom told
I have squandered my resistance,
For a pocketful of mumbles, such are promises.
All lies and jest.
Still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.

When I left my home and my family I was no more than a boy,
In the company of strangers,
In the quiet of the railway station, runnin' scared.
Laying low, seeking out the poorer quarters,
Where the ragged people go.
Lookin' for the places, only they would know.

Lie-la-lie ...

Asking only workman's wages I come lookin' for a job,
But I get no offers,
Just a come-on from the whores on Seventh Avenue.
I do declare there were times when I was so lonesome,
I took some comfort there.
La, la, la, la, la, la, la.

Li la li ...

And I’m laying out my winter clothes, and wishing I was gone, goin’ home
Where the new york city winters aren’t bleedin’ me, leadin’ me goin' home.

In the clearing stands a boxer and a fighter by his trade,
And he carries the reminders of every glove that laid him down,
Or cut him 'til he cried out in his anger and his shame,
"I am leaving, I am leaving."
But the fighter still remains.

Lie-la-lie...


Or, *OR*...my new best friend you...a little ole fav of my sainted brother Willy :cry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9aRS7KygXo&feature=related
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 02:30 AM
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 02:41 AM
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39. Pft, sweety, "I another words" wtf *is* that; I live with a writer that's not even Eng-rish is it!?


From me O8) to you :mad: you're to consider editing your shit right the fuck NOW buh-fore too many others see it ;)
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 02:56 AM
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41. So...the...q is........will I be race baited? No I will not
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 03:08 AM
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43. STFU the only bigot is you,quit harrassing people with your bs
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 04:12 AM
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53. Except no one did that, genius.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 03:15 AM
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46. go cheney yourself your slimy piece of shit bigot
the people you're accusing of race baiting most certainly are not. YOU are. not get the fuck off this forum. Stormfront, Freeperville, etc, are places where disgusting bigots can frolic with like minded asswipes. Here? Not so much.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 04:16 AM
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55. bigots almost never recognize that they're bigots, bigot
your comments make it clear, bigot, that you are indeed a bigoted piece of crap. And sorry, most Freepers are bigots. Now get your filthy disgusting bigoted ass off our board. fuck you for your ugly bigotry.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 04:18 AM
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57. "I'm not a bigot. Just a realist". No, you're a Republican.
They rationalize all their douche baggery exactly the same way.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 03:16 AM
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47. Well I think you're stuck-on-stupid. It's a form of peculiarity for one to sidle up...
and begin to cast heinous facets of specious hatreds about as though phony-ass, week old Pringle chips...without registering any compunction whatsoever to acknowledge the 6-D nature of the space into which one finds one's self, or, indeed, has sidled into
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 03:09 AM
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44. this nut sounds like a angry black republican ,pay this fool no attention
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 04:11 AM
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51. Right. Steele is in charge of getting his ass kicked by the bigots
in the Southern White Christian Party.

What a phony you are.

Hilarious.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 04:15 AM
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54. Oh Lord! Oh Jesus, you did NOT!!
I'm like Chairman Steele: large and in charge, and helping to lead my brothers and sisters from the Democrat plantation.

Oh my God!! My sides!! Oh, Lord I can't take it!!! :rofl:

The only place Michael Steele is leading black folks is to the hospital from all of the sides that have been split laughing at his tired @ss! You must have fallen and bumped your damn head!! :rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 04:17 AM
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56. It's a live one. Or rather, live from the neck down.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 04:21 AM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 04:25 AM
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60. LOL. The little busted freeper is trying to make the rules.
You guys are so cute. Stupid as a bag of rocks, but cute as only the truly, blindingly ignorant can be cute.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 04:41 AM
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61. EFerrari, this person's comments about Mexicans were disgusting.
I am so sorry that you had to see them. I currently live as far away from black folks and Mexicans as possible, so I'm unaware of this type of beef between the two groups in California. His comments come across as someone who has been directly affected by the happenings and who has become bitter and ignorant as a result.

However, I am still quite curious to know why in response to this OP, a story about roving bands of black men who attacked two gay bartenders was tossed into the mix. What in hell that story has to do with the apparently well-documented and well-known story of blacks being attacked by Latino gang members in a specific area of California is beyond my comprehension.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 09:50 AM
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63. I didn't understand it either.
As for as Hawaiin Garden, the situation is probably more about poverty than anything else. The community doesn't seem to have much of anything it needs.
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 08:17 AM
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62. Oh, yeah. You're black...
and we're all very stupid.

Because we *are* all commies, after all...
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 04:12 AM
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52. Bridgit, I'm curious why you brought this up.
What does this anecdote have to do with the issue mentioned in the OP?
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