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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-23-09 03:45 PM Original message |
US still relies on torture - we're just outsourcing it. Practice increased under Obama. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-23-09 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. And anyone listening to Panetta's confirmation hearing could have known that: |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 01:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Must you educate those who just don't want to know.. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 01:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Hey, fly! I watch that hearing very closely. It made my belly flip. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 01:55 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. I watched it as well..and it made me sick to my stomach... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 02:17 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. I'm so happy for you! |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 02:32 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I was thinking more like .. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 01:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Rendition doesn't mean kidnapping. Look in any dictionary or encyclopedia. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
31. Yep |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-23-09 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. Extraordinary rendition (outsourced torture) started under Clinton. |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-23-09 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. Under the HopeMobile for you, Obama hater! |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-23-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. If I get thrown under that bus one more time |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 01:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. psssssss..leave the luggage home..there is no room left under the bus for extras!! |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 01:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. There's room for THAT MUCH!!!! |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 02:05 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. well make it one of those travel toothbrushes..no need to get carried away with a full size |
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ProgressIn2008 (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-23-09 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
5. Kick. |
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Contrary1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
8. So rendition is legal and a good thing? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 01:25 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Uh, yeah. Rendition has been going on for centuries. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 02:16 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. who would have thought..two wrongs make right......... |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 02:46 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Or you could actually read the article. |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 08:44 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Why should the Fifth Column waste time reading |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. so you "read minds now".. sooo you think you are Clairvoyant..did you know i went to bed after my |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Given that you thought the article was about rendition, |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #23 |
38. This is aggressive nonsense. |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 02:07 AM Response to Reply #8 |
20. How is this even rendition? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. It's not rendition, it's outsourcing. n/t |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Is it really "outsourcing" for Pakistan to take care of Pakistani criminals in Pakistan? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
9. I don't believe having Pakistan enforce the law within its own territory is "outsourcing torture." |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 01:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. I believe the hue and cry is over the U.S. capturing prisoners then turning them over to |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 01:49 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. These specific acts are extra legal. And the larger concern |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #14 |
37. Which acts referenced in the article are extralegal? nt |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #13 |
33. That isn't what the article is about. Look at the very first line. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Yes, it is what should be happening. My reading comprehension failed me. |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 01:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. It's truly disgusting. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 02:08 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. We seem to be having no problem blowing their people to bits. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #22 |
34. But that's completely unrelated. The OP is misrepresenting the article. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
15. So he took a page from Reagan's play book |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
21. Help me out here. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
36. Your read is correct. The OP's headline approaches libel. nt |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. I'm growing tired of the exaggerate slams and smears. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
27. Extraordinary rendition |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. From my read the article is not discussing extraordinary rendition. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. My putting the definition out there was due to the following line: |
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Martin Eden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
41. Is it rendition? |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-24-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. The OP's title is a lie |
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