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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 07:07 PM
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Abeer al Janabi as a child, new picture (RIP you sweet girl)
Edited on Sun May-24-09 07:10 PM by uppityperson


http://suomenkuvalehti.fi/kuvat/2009/05/23/iraq-rape-slaying-victims
Iraq Rape Slaying Victims

This undated photo released by the U.S. District Court and introduced by the prosecution as an exhibit in the trial of former Army Pfc. Steven Green in Paducah, Ky., shows Abeer Qassim al-Janabi as a young girl in Iraq. Green, convicted of raping and killing al-Janabi and murdering her family was sentenced to life in prison Thursday, May 21, 2009 in a case that drew attention to the emotional and psychological strains on soldiers serving in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 07:09 PM
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1. Another story on her and her family, link, etc...
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-us-iraq-rape-slaying-victims,0,2311379.story

This undated photo released by the U.S. District Court and introduced by the prosecution as an exhibit in the trial of former Army Pfc. Steven Green in Paducah, Ky., shows Abeer Qassim al-Janabi as a young girl in Iraq. Green, convicted of raping and killing al-Janabi and murdering her family was sentenced to life in prison Thursday, May 21, 2009 in a case that drew attention to the emotional and psychological strains on soldiers serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. (AP Photo/U.S. District Court via The Courier-Journal) (AP / May 22, 2009)

PADUCAH, Ky. (AP) — The beautiful, dark-haired girl in the photograph stands near a wall in pre-invasion Iraq. What is unseen and now lost, her family says, is her dream of moving to the big city and getting married.

"Abeer was a strong woman," said her aunt, Ameena Hamza Rashid al-Janabi. "She was very proud to be young."

Relatives of the girl, Abeer Qassim al-Janabi, and prosecutors detailed the teen's hopes and life during the civilian trial of former Pfc. Steven Dale Green, 24, in western Kentucky. They showed pictures of the family at home, and relatives recounted their aspirations for a better life....(more)
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 10:33 PM
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17. How sad that the family's "dreams" included having a place to live and
food to eat. That should be a given, not a "dream," but the illegal invasion has made that such an unlikely thing in Iraq that people can only dream about it.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 10:43 PM
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19. Indeed. A dream to live and eat like all the other people. The Occupation really sucks
"He had a dream he would live and eat like all the other people," Farras said. "He had a dream he would have a house one day. He had a dream the kids would finish college." Kassem's wife of 25 years, Fakhriya, was described by her sons as a good cook and stay-at-home mom who wanted a home and furniture of her own, not borrowed, Farras said.

"My parents are not like anyone else," said Mohammed, who shared a bedroom with his five family members.

Abeer, the oldest child, was a typical teenager in a rural area — hopes for new clothes and a life in the big city, Baghdad in her case. Soldiers who testified in Green's trial said Abeer looked older than her early teens, with one soldier pegging her age at about 20.

Hadeel, shown in pictures with dark hair like her sister, loved a sweet plant that grew in the yard, was playful but not very mischievous, Ahmed al-Janabi said. The older brothers and little sister enjoyed games of hide and seek. "She was good and she would play with me," said Ahmed, who didn't give his age.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 01:14 AM
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20. A poster asked last wk why there were no other pictures of the family
other than their ID pictures. Some of us guessed that they didn't have the money, and what with her growing up mostly under the USA occupation, probably didn't have access to personal photography like we are used to here.

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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 07:14 PM
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2. Psycological strains?
Yes they are under a lot of stress.
There are murdering rapists in the U.S.
The war environment probably makes it easier to get away with awful crimes.
We take murdering rapists from the U.S. and put them in a war environment.
And then we draw the conclusion that war causes people to become murdering rapists.

I know hard core soldiers who are very good at their job which is to kill the enemy, and very good human beings when they are not on the job.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 07:15 PM
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3. Sad.
So much beauty. So much ugliness.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 07:24 PM
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4. And we have to get it from the Finnish Pictorial instead of our own media
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 07:35 PM
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5. our media referred to her as a woman
not that it would make the rape ok. but i think they kind of wanted to imply it wasn't rape.

and everyone knows crimes against children are always bring more sympathy than against adults.

wasn't the movie Redacted based on this horrible event ? and scum like O'Reilly and other whores had a problem with the movie because it showed soldiers in a negative light. not all soldiers are bad. most are good.

but why should be hide the horror commited by the bad ones. after all we don't justify torture, war etc based on the few also.

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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 08:48 PM
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11. And the Newsday article slants it even further...
Abeer, the oldest child, was a typical teenager in a rural area — hopes for new clothes and a life in the big city, Baghdad in her case. Soldiers who testified in Green's trial said Abeer looked older than her early teens, with one soldier pegging her age at about 20.

See, she looked older, so she deserved what happened to her, right? :argh:

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 08:45 PM
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10. It is an Ap photo and article, I looked more and found it, link in post 2 and here is AP link
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gEGFPQV9D_wMqdr46GE5bW3JXZAAD98C9JMO0
...Mohammed and Ahmed returned from school the afternoon of the attack to find smoke billowing from the windows. After going to their uncle's home, they returned to the house to find their father shot in the head, mother shot in the chest, Hadeel shot in the face and Abeer's remains burning.

Since then, Mohammed and Ahmed said, they haven't gone to school. "I refuse to go," Mohammed said. "I don't have the mood to study." Seeing the bodies of his family changed Ahmed's dream. Now, Ahmed said he wants to be a policeman — "so I can protect myself and other people and poor people."
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 07:36 PM
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6. emotional and psychological strains on soldiers serving in Iraq and Afghanistan?
What about the emotional and psychological strains on citizens living in Iraq and Afghanistan??
WTF?

This family is forever scarred. It will be generations if ever before they "forget" this girl and others like her.

But noooooooooooo we had to go over there with our Bushit and gung ho attitude.
Don't you feel so much safer now?

Do I really need to put a sarcasm thingie here? oh forget it.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 07:39 PM
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8. this had nothing to do with emotional and psychological strains
the guys who did it are scum. they were after her long before they actually decided to rape her. it wasn't a case where guys can't handle it and then they suddenly snap and just start shooting.

this was planned. they had been sending signals about how "good" the girl was to her own mother. the girl was scared for a long time but they assured her that they would do nothing to harm her.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 08:50 PM
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13. You're right...
...this had to do with a bunch of soldiers deciding it was their right to "help themselves" to the local girls, and "using a little more drastic methods" when they couldn't get their way.

:puke:

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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 08:54 PM
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14. I was quoting from the OP....
"This undated photo released by the U.S. District Court and introduced by the prosecution as an exhibit in the trial of former Army Pfc. Steven Green in Paducah, Ky., shows Abeer Qassim al-Janabi as a young girl in Iraq. Green, convicted of raping and killing al-Janabi and murdering her family was sentenced to life in prison Thursday, May 21, 2009

in a case that drew attention to the emotional and psychological strains on soldiers serving in Iraq and Afghanistan

."

And yes, these guys are scum and planned to do her harm, but IMO the article was blaming it on the psychological strain. And there is NO EXCUSE they can use to dismiss this atrocity.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 07:36 PM
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7. i bet most americans don't even know about this
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 08:48 PM
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12. Sadly, I bet so also. I have told a couple people this wk about the trial's outcome
they looked at me blankly while I told them the crime, hadn't heard of this though they remember Menchaca and Tucker getting killed (which was possible retaliation) since they were "our guys".

This picture breaks my heart again. She looks what, 5, 6, 7? About the age her little sister was. About the age of nieces of mine.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 10:30 PM
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16. thanks for posting
this picture. I agree, far to few know about this incident.- I think some people don't want to know, because it's painful to confront the horror that is a result of"US" actions.

This picture gives her a voice still. It speaks of the child who had innocence, dreams, hopes, and a lifetime ahead of her. The child who will never grow old-
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 08:23 PM
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9. "Abeer" means "fragrance of flowers" or so I've read
None of the million dead Iraqis deserve what we have inflicted on them.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 10:10 PM
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15. its a disgrace that the army refused to try him
they had a responsibility to put their own on trial, since he committed the crime while in uniform. Foisting Green off to civilian court is a black mark on the US Army.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 10:40 PM
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18. It is the law though.
Green wanted to be tried by military. His attorney filed many things trying to get that since then he would not have had the possibility of death or life without parole.

Since he was now a civilian, this was where he was tried. His buddies got 8-90 yrs, with parole after 7-10 yrs. I am glad Green will be locked up longer
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 08:43 AM
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21. they want to bring up psychological strains to defend rape/murder but soldiers
who are actually suffering from it have a difficult time getting help and are considered losers if they seek help.

these fuckers had been using their power to go to the home regularly to "search". probably to see the girl and maybe get an idea of things for when they planned to commit their disgusting acts.




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