Middle School Girls Make Instructional Video About How To Kill Classmate

I'm just so proud that this happened at a nearby school. :sarcasm: And it's just wonderful knowing my youngest daughter is going off to middle school in a few months.

Note also all the comments about how "it's no big deal" or "we don't know what Piper did to deserve it." :eyes:

It's just the technology that's changed. Now they can broadcast it to the world.

They can be, and are, brutal.

One of the reasons that I prefer K-8s to big middle schools; putting all of them together is a recipe for disaster.

When they are a smaller piece of a wider, more authentic population, it's easier to reign in the extremes.

i have two kids middle school. 5th and 8th. kids have their last week. both have expressed this has been the best year ever. youngest said he will kinda miss school.

new experience for us

i hope your daughter fares equally well

ya think?

I'm for the third. That girl shouldn't have to have endured a damn thing. Knowing severe repercussions might help prevent some of these incidents in the future. Or so the theory goes.

kids treated me (this was in the early 1980s). I remember being told to ignore the kids who taunted me, as if that would make it stop. Bullying is mental abuse, pure and simple.

...about fifteen years before you. And I had the handicap of coming into a new community after having lived overseas for several years. The standard operational policy (both parental and school) was to do nothing, as that "would only make it increase," and simply tell the subject to "ignore them and they'll stop it," with the implication that it was your own fault for showing them they could get to you.

I suspect that, if I really wanted to get into the lasting effects of those years, I could keep a therapist quite well-funded for a number of years.

those assholes who ripped a hole in my self-esteem.

sounds reasonable, but along with that comes learning why such thing goes on, what's with this age, etc. Some schools have, in fact, attempted to address it in this way.

Kids being cruel and nasty and bullying other kids is hardly new (although it's still not acceptable). But what really curdles my blood is the fact that...like true auteurs, they scored their little video with a Hannah Montana song about friendship. 'Cuz, see, that makes for, like, ironic humor.

We're not just raising a generation of bullies, we're raising a generation of art-house bullies.

Their teachers must be so proud.

And it's as old as the litter of newborn animals that eats their own to "weed out the weak." Sadly (and shamefully), our modern culture does not condemn such behavior and often subtly (or not-so-subtly) encourages it - and therefore we are raising a generation of devoted Social Darwinists - ready and willing to do their best to weed out the "weak" and the "unfit" with a big smile.

I saw the little girl on television and she is a beautiful child. I hope her looks aren't the basis of this attack. But. They could be. It's not what I want for women. Too much of our culture pits women against each other - even at the young age of these girls. Fortunately, most women (well, the women I know) grow out of this destructive behavior and become supportive of other women, beautiful or not. I was a pretty girl (not being egotistical here. I just was. I inherited looks that were considered pretty.) My looks were hardly intimidating and I had many friends. However, I had a friend who was genuinely beautiful. She was one of the best friends I had growing up. She had all of the qualities of a wonderful childhood friend: intelligent, funny, curious about life, and always loyal to me. Yet she was outright hated by many girls, (who barely knew her), and coldly tolerated by others. Their loss. They missed out. And their hate was fueled by jealousy.
We really need to stop doing this to each other.

dontcha think.

i agree with what you are saying, but if you look at the societal pressure and how yearly it continues to get worse, not better, and at younger and younger ages, .... i dont see that things are going to get any better for girls/women

...whether she had had a falling-out with the other girls, because she seemed sheltered rather than "cool," or any number of other reasons. And it doesn't matter. Bullying should not be tolerated, period. And any "explanation" of the cause is merely a way of transferring some of the blame to the victim -- as if to say "well, if they didn't look/act this way, it wouldn't have happened." Sorry, wrong answer.

experienced among young girls which is fueled by jealousy. Where was I condoning or tolerating what these girls have done?
I believe we need to investigate what makes these girls so mean and vindictive towards another child. You missed the point.

surely the latest generation is a great leap forward in the spiritual evolution of humanity. They will heal the world, they will. :eyes:

they talked her into dying her hair brown like theirs and after she did howled with laughter how stupid she looked. They told her that they were only pretending to be her friend. They started rumors about her that she was dealing in drugs. They wrote her name and dropped it into the "bully box" (an anonymous way for kids to say someone is bothering them) It was awful.she said the worst part of her day is waking up and the best part of her day was going to bed at night. That was last year. This year, each of the five girls who egged each other on in the process, ended up in her homeroom. She said she didn't want to be switched out, she liked the other kids in the room. She is doing well with another group of friends, and she seems to be a happier kid now. It was awful for her. I DID call the meanest ones parents. It helped to reel these girls in.

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And I keep thinking about that poor girl who killed herself after some other girl (and her mother) set her up to get a bunch of hate messages telling her the world would be better off without her. :cry:

It's sickening what some kids will do to hurt others feelings. The schools can only do so much in these instances, best to just call the parents and handle it at their level, if the parents are any parents at all, they will usually discipline their kid and put a stop to it.

A shy, bullied child is unlikely to go to the news with this information and speak so confidently. Her nonchalant "my feelings were hurt" comes oddly. If someone had written 6 ways to murder me, I might be more afraid than "hurt." My first impression was that the Piper girl is a bully and the other girls are frustrated and unpopular. Or perhaps its a rivalry between a set of popular girls and a popular girl they discarded.

I just can't imagine a bullied child confidently going on a news interview and talking about her experience. II can't imagine anyone who was truly picked on at school deciding to go on TV to reveal such a humiliation.

God... so callous and clueless... they will never ever get it. Sharks. Vultures. Subdivision dwellers and SUV drivers, NO QUESTION.

God damn, I'd just better not say what I'd like to see happen to such people. It isn't a "sane" thing.

they need to be pulled out of mainstream schools and placed in some sort of alternative school where they can receive intense therapy. It's best to nip that behavior in the bud instead of letting it go on until adulthood where bullies become predators/abusers, etc. Doing this will also help the ones who are bullied. I think those two kids that pulled off Columbine had been bullied in school for some time. They chose to lash out violently instead of keeping it inside.

There is one bully, but many victims because of that one bully, how many little lives where forever changed, ruined, self esteems crushed. Bullies need to be pulled out of the mainstream school system, the kids are supposed to be there to get an education, not be teased and beat up.

I remember my 7th grade gym teacher telling me she'd rather be stranded in the bush with hungry bears than 11-13 year old girls.

Having one who is approaching that age, I am doing my best to keep her from becoming a psychopath.

Someone needs to sit these young ladies down and have a long talk with them. Maybe get them to do a small community service project. Something like helping at a womens shelter so they can learn the value in helping out their fellow woman, not running her down.

create a unique situation. Brain research tells us that there is a period of "pruning" going on in the brain beginning with preteens that resembles the pruning that happens at about 2 years old. Impulsiveness and self-centeredness are a natural part of the process.

It's the "terrible twos" plus hormone surges and greater independence. A truly tall challenge.

Doing your best to keep your daughter connected to the rest of the non-pre-teen/teen girl population will help.

began making excuses for their kids' selfish behavior from the time they were in preschool.

You know they don't usually act this way unless it's been tolerated for a very long time. They knew they wouldn't get into trouble and had no problem planning their personal harassment.

I say prosecute and throw the book at them. And yes, I have a 6th grade daughter (she our younger daughter) and know how they can be. There is NO EXCUSE for this behavior. Our daughter's school has become so snotty she can't wait until we move to a new area.

I used to say I lost one year of my own life for each year I taught middle schoolers. I taught some good kids, but it was still hell. It is an awful, painful, brutal part of life.

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