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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 06:17 PM Original message |
State of Paralysis (Krugman on California) |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. And the NY Times posted that. Wow. Oh, |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. much as we'd love to |
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theoldman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. It's not the governor's fault. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. The people are at fault. They wanted no taxes, now they can reap the whirlwind. |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
27. No taxes!? |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-26-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. What about all the programs mandated by ballot measures |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
30. It's a structural problem- see post 29 below |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. It is really the voters' fault |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. BS! There is a reason I called |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. It's a bit more complex than that |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. it is the Great Aryan Hope's fault, but he's not alone. |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. some of us |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
24. "I guess this is how Republicans think you run a business." |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
4. Well, the state government is going to have to save its own ass anyway. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. They can't, they've been bankrupted by selfish ballot initiatives. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Then their ass will not be saved. nt |
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Skink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
9. A similar initiative to prop 13 passed in the San Antonio Texas area. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Actually, if restricted to homeowners 60 and up, living in their own homes, Prop 13 would be fine. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
11. I support the idea of a constitutional convention |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Yeah, we are completely fucked, we need to start over. nt |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. The Presidio debacle alone should be cause for revolution. n/t |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
14. It's just so typical far Cali. |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Minor historical point on placement of state capitals |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. I believe that's true, but it does cause problems in the states I've lived in |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
17. How about.. |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
21. ... |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Prop 13 and the self inflicted downhill slide from there. |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Prop 13 doesn't mean we pay less taxes. |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
23. And all while this is happening, people are not going to be able to pay more taxes. |
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Egalitariat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
25. I've never heard California was a low-tax state. Is that true relative to other states?*** |
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Egalitariat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
26. I've never heard California was a low-tax state. Is that true relative to other states?*** |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-25-09 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
29. I drew something entirely different from the article than most on the thread |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-26-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Interesting that several years ago Arnold put a proposal to change the way |
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