And rw-ers say FAUX exists to counter CNN's "liberalism"

There is no liberal media

of the balance. CNN is not liberal.

but there's a conservative media, too. Fox News, The Washington Times, The New York Post, etc., ect - But they will never have the circulation of the NYT and therefore, the MSM is liberal (she says with tongue planted firmly in cheek)

To believe that the MSM is inherently liberal is to have selective memory regarding the role of Judith Miller from the New York Times and her articles regarding WMD in Iraq.

a liberal and a conservative media? That would mean that the media is completely unbiased in it's reporting. Surely you don't believe that.

Better yet, stop using the question as a springboard
to hypothesize about my opinions, and simply answer it.

You've made it VERY clear that you believe an answer
exists and is known to you, so why are you dropping chaff
instead of sharing it?

when I said that there is a liberal bias in the media, but it's counteracted by conservative news sources such as Fox, the Washington Times and numerous RW websites and blogs. To pretend that the media is somehow completely unbiased in its reporting is to be extremely naive. Is there a particular reason why you are being so snippy to the new person on board? Or is this your idea of having rapier like debating skills?

"The Media Has a Liberal Bias" is a RW myth,
and has been for a very long time.

If it really exists, you could point it out as I asked.
But you haven't, because it doesn't.

flame the new person. Let me tell you that while I may be new to DU, I am not a stranger to posting on political forums. I did not say that the media has a liberal bias - so next time, don't put words in my mouth. I said a liberal media exists. Big difference. Try more reading, less flaming.

No, that would mean the corporate press has a corporate bias. There is also a right-wing media funded by figures like Rupert Murdoch, which has an obvious and extreme political bias.

I don't think you've ever read any liberal media. Go read the Nation and see if you still think the NYT is liberal.

next to my toilet after a whopping post count of what? Twenty? There are degrees of liberalism. And while I thoroughly am disgusted at the NYT for Judith Miller and her role in getting the US into Iraq (and yes, it was a substantial role), generally speaking, the NYT is not considered to be conservative. Neither are Time and Newsweek, two of the biggest publishers of weekly news magazines.

As for myself, I subscribe to the Progressive Homepage and WSR. Are those left enough for you?

They have a pro-corporate bias. And if you think TIME is unbiased, I don't know what to say to you.

Any Media that relays the truth will be called Liberal..

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

Its like Communism, but instead of being the ideology of Communists, its the ideology of "Liberalists".

I'm not really talking about the grammar or the "ist" ending, its just that the words "liberalism" and "conservatism" just strike me as dumb. Its hard to put my finger on why, but they strike me as fundamentally different than words like "communism", "capitalism", "catholicism". They present these two things as if they have the structure, the gravity of the other isms when they don't. Like the isms describe states of being. You can go into a catholic nation, or a communist nation, but a liberal nation? It doesn't define the structure of the place the way the other isms do. The word strikes me as too nebulous to be an ism. Same with conservatism. I don't know why, its just how it seems to be. :shrug:

:hi:

Got me thinking about words and the spin in 'em.

Wrong. Glenn Beck is the 'darling' of CNN. Rwingers LOVE Beck! LOVE him. So, no. Sorry. Wrong. Again. Sad.

My SIL and her husband are a far cry from being wing-nuts, and they hate _Bush with a passion, but they worship at the alter of Billo because ITHO, Billo gives the other side of the story...:eyes:.

The media is corpo-conservative.

is that the truth has a liberal biased so rw-ers need fake news agents to spread non-news in a news like fashion. Any reporting of actual facts are always a danger to the RW.

..as "mainstream liberal media". But Faux is very rethug, lying liars and the lies they tell..

Limbaugh started that bullshit back in the early 90's, and it aint true.