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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:30 PM
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What is a "reverse racist" ??
I have heard several Republicans use that phrase. But I'm not sure I understand what it means? Does anyone know?
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:31 PM
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1. In their mind
that means anyone who doesn't love whitey.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:33 PM
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2. Any one who supports equal opportunity
. . . especially a person of color.

Women who support equal opportunity are "feminazis".
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:36 PM
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8. I forgot about that one. Woohoo, feminazis!
So bizarre.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:43 PM
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10. That's one of my favs. Reminds me of Austin Powers fembots.
:rofl:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:34 PM
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3. A person who reverses racism and uses it against the bigot? n/t
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:34 PM
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4. Oh, boy
This should get complicated...

This might help.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_racism
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:35 PM
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5. It's a projection of hatred that wing nuts plaster all over people of color.
And they wind up saying ridiculous things like La Raza is the KKK without the hoods and nooses. lol

It's also a way to minimize the impact of discrimination by pretending that a minority can have as much impact as the majority, whatever that minority is.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:35 PM
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6. Grammatically, or in the tiny globs of brain tissues Republicans try to use?
A reverse racist would be the opposite of a racist, by any logical standard. Or someone bent on reversing racism, ie trying to undo it's effects.

Then again, Republicans and other conservatives think that would be a bad thing, because it takes away their special privileges and puts them on equal footing with everyone else. So maybe they understand exactly what the phrase should mean, and that's why it's a negative to them.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:36 PM
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7. Just shit white folks say to cover their own racism....
The only reason it works is because white folks are the majority, and we typically agree with each other on matters of race.

The fox guarding the hen-house phenomenon.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:37 PM
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9. right wing term just like "race card"
the underlying message is usually that minorites are taking something away wrongfully from whites.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:44 PM
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11. It's what happens when...
Tancredo sticks his head up his ass
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:45 PM
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12. When you justify something racist against someone else using your minority status as the reason
Or one may say "I think we should elect x/y/z based on their race/religion/orientation/physical status because only someone belonging to that group can understand their issues, others are not capable of doing so because their intellect is limited and they cannot possibly be smart enough or experienced enough to represent the issues of said group unless they have lived it"

It implies that unless you belong to a group you cannot have the ability to care about that group or it's issues. And even if you care you won't do the right thing because you are not a member, therefore you are limited in your abilities.

Lastly, to wit, I cannot make good decisions for folks of African American descent because I am not one, so if a position comes up that has some power in it I should not be elected to it because I am white.

Using race/etc to determine qualifications of position, and at the same time decrying the use of race/etc for the qualifications of such position.
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:47 PM
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13. Wikipedia says of reverse racism:
In the United States, the terms "reverse discrimination" and "reverse racism" have been used in past discussions of racial quotas or gender quotas for collegiate admission to government-run educational institutions. Such policies were held to be unconstitutional in the United States, while non-quota race preferences are legal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_racism

So we may suppose a "reverse racist" is one who practices reverse racism?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 11:38 PM
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20. ty
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obliviously Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:50 PM
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14. It is a white supremist
Backing out his driveway!
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:52 PM
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15. A non white who dares to be proud of who they are
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:53 PM
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17. a non-white DEMOCRAT you mean
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:55 AM
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28. Oh, please
When's the last time you saw a republican who had a darker-than-eggshell complexion who wasn't scrambling to wash the massa's feet up in the big house?
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:53 PM
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16. A Democrat of color who is proud of his/her heritage
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:56 PM
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18. As a great philosopher once said...
"Why can't we all just get along?" :-)
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 11:21 PM
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19. At least TWO different versions
Edited on Sat May-30-09 11:22 PM by UTUSN
1) the way LIMBOsevic is using it, for minorities supposedly being prejudiced against Whites, especially White males. This is what they've always said, that Affirmative Action and such are racist and biased against WHITES, especially White males.


But actually, I've been accusing Ruben NAVARRETTE and Orrin HATCH with racism, without the "reverse" in front of it, to wit:

2) NAVARRETTE *automatically* favoring Alberto GONZALEZ, Miguel ESTRADA, and a Texas homeboy named Victor MORALES--------just BECAUSE these fellows are Hispanics. Iow, NAVARRETTE is an Affirmative Action alum like Clarence THOMAS, who has built a career out of hating "Liberal White males" who were supposedly his benefactors with AA, and opposing ALL Democratic party activities, and kissing up to Rethugs and Shrub in particular. So in the wilderness years for Democrats in Texas after Shrub's fool governorship, this nutcase high school teacher Victor MORALES was the ONLY Dem running for (Senator?), campaigning only on weekends and in a battered old truck. O.K., fine. But after a couple of cycles of this, things were looking up, and Ron KIRK was a serious candidate and actually had a good chance, but Victor kept running. And NAVARRETTE was doing his usual, giving "advice" and ORDERS to the Dem party, saying that we OWED it to Victor because we were "betraying" a loyal Hispanic. Well, Victor lost, refused to endorse the primary winner, KIRK, and then went on to endorse the Rethug candidate.

But the bottom line was that NAVARRETTE, to me, was practicing racism, was demanding that MORALES be supported JUST BECAUSE he was Hispanic. Orrin HATCH has been doing this with Poppy BUSH's Clarence THOMAS gambit, excoriating Dems for opposing these wingnut minorities. Iow, he demands that Dems should support wingnut minority nominees JUST BECAUSE they are minorities. This is racism to me. "Reverse" racism? Since the first use of the Clarence gambit, Dems were totally flummoxed, painted into a corner, quaking at the thought of having to oppose a minority member. Actually, the SIMPLE ANSWER was: We oppose him because he's a WINGNUT!1 We don't have to call him "houseboy" names. All we have to say, puppet or not, HE'S A WINGNUT!1
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 11:50 PM
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21. Reverse Racist should just be racist
It is anyone not white that believes their race is superior to another persons.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:46 AM
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25. Well, that's right. Race-based stuff is...racist. nt
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 04:23 PM
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44. Pretty much
Reverse racism is just when a historically discriminated class is racist. It is just racism.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 11:57 PM
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22. I hate to admit this.
But all of us who belong to a tribe are racist against the other tribe. The educated and classist Republicans really know how to use words and turn everyone against those whom they feel shouldn't have a place in the world.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:24 AM
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23. Someone who, rather than negatively discriminating against someone due to race
does something positive for/with/etc them merely because of race.

It is racism, but to give someone a positive thing.

It is used, improperly, by those who feel the only reason someone of a particular race, or skin color, could EVER do something like, say, be president, or succeed, is because others are using reverse racism (giving them bonus points and pushing them ahead merely because they have a certain skin color).
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:45 AM
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24. Anything done or said by a person of color is better than anything a white person does or says.
You do see some of that here on DU.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:49 AM
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26. But that's not how the RW uses it.
They use it to imply a power balance that doesn't exist in real life, not just someone's warped opinion.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:55 AM
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27. It's racism to even bring up her race. It's stupid. They're grasping at straws.
She's going to be confirmed so quickly, we all ought to wear hairnets for that extra margin of safety.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:58 AM
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30. Too bad we can't delay the hearing to give them more time to
shoot the other foot. lol
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:45 AM
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38. Yeah, I know the drugs I get from black people are better than those I get from white people...
:sarcasm:

I just thought I'd take your version of a definition, and play with it a bit.

So, would you agree or disagree with my admittedly sarcastic response. Remember... if you disagree.. even though it's sarcastic... then you have proven yourself not to believe what you've said. On the other hand, if you disagree, you're saying that the white people do it (drug dealing) better.

Or maybe you'll just have to admit that your post is another example of exactly what you're decrying. Mindless absolutism.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:57 AM
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29. A nonexistant construct invented by white people
to deny the concept of white privilege.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:03 AM
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31. Two definitions
1) Those who fight racism

2) A distraction used by those who attempt to justify their own racism by claiming those from definition #1 are also racists.


L-
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:09 AM
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32. Oooh, ooh, I know this one.
Edited on Sun May-31-09 01:10 AM by Chovexani
A person of color who dares to challenge white privilege.

See also: Uppity _____
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DatManFromNawlins Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:20 AM
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33. Racism is racism
And giving any racial preferences without regard to other conditions such as class is racist.

Should Bob Johnson or Michael Jordan be given additional consideration for business deals, for example, simply because they're black?

Should a black student whose parents are an engineer and doctor be given a national achievement scholarship because he's black, even though same scholarship is denied to a latino student whose parents work at a fast food restaurant and as a laborer... when the latino student scores a full 30 points higher on the PSAT, has better grades, and didn't have the money to pay for exclusive tutoring sessions to boot?

People started using the term "reverse racism" when they saw what they felt were racial preferences or outright racism and were then told by progressives that only whites could be racist because they were the ones who held financial and political power.

To me, racism is bigotry based upon race.
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:24 AM
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34. "Reverse racism" is, according to the Repugs,
people who think it's okay to discriminate against whites in order to remedy discrimination against blacks, Hispanics and so on - in other words, those who are willing to exclude whites from jobs to ensure "diversity." Ergo, a "reverse racist" is someone who subscribes to the belief that engaging in such a practice is okay.

I hate to say it on this board, since I know I'm going to get flamed, but as a former Republican and someone who is against discrimination of any kind (as an example, I'm against Affirmative Action, even though it's supposedly designed to "level the playing field"), I'm not conviced they're without a point. "Diversity," when it happens naturally, is just fine - no reasonable person could complain about it - but manufactured "diversity" has always, in my relatively extensive experience as someone who works in HR, been a disaster which breeds contempt and produces as much hatred as does the discrimination it's designed to prevent.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:40 AM
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37. But if nothing is done...?
Will not the racism continue? So the question that is left is: Should anything be done about it? Some people see it as an injustice, and where there is injustice, it cannot be ignored.
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TCJ70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 04:29 PM
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46. This is how the term is commonly used.
The reverse isn't really necessary what it amounts to is racism.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:35 AM
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35. Literally, it would be a person who considers their own race inferior. n/t
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:39 AM
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36. It's a stupid term.
A racist is a racist. No matter what color their own skin is.

A black person can be racist, an Asian person can be racist, a Hispanic person can be racist, a White person can be racist, an Indian person can be racist.

"reverse racist" is a bullshit term.
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voc Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:46 AM
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39. Reverse racist is
David Duke.
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:47 AM
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40. It occurs to me that using the term is racist all by itself...
because white is the "norm" - racism practiced by non-whites bust be "reverse" racism.

LOL - that's striking me as really funny... never thought of it that way before.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 04:24 PM
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45. Yup. Just like there are quarterbacks, and then there are black quarterbacks.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:17 AM
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41. A member of the dominant community who is confused and identifies
him/herself by using the term.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:01 AM
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42. It's their new term for reverse discrimination because they think it makes sense
IMO racism, like sexual harassment, is about power, in the legal sense anyway. You have to actually have the power to oppress the minority (or majority?) in order to be guilty of institutionalized racism.
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konnichi wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:14 AM
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43. I'm not even sure what a racist is any more let alone a reverse one.
For sure the definition varies wildly depending on who supplies it.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 04:48 PM
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47. I think they moonwalk while they discriminate
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