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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:39 PM
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Here's how the right wing will handle Tiller's murder, if you haven't figured it out already.
Don't get all excited, assuming the wingnuts are damned if they condemn it and damned if they praise it. They know just what to do.

1. Claim the murder had nothing to do with Tiller's activities, he was just killed by some nut who wanted to randomly kill someone--which just figures in our godless homicidal society.

or--

2. If a suspect is arrested whom all information identifies as one of their own--and as someeone who killed Tiller for who he was and what he did--call him a guy who went overboard, but gosh, considering the things Tiller did, it's understandable how that might happen to a person. They will also try to point out that the person probably did mental calculus estimating that the death of this one man would save countless babies; therefore, it was justified.

Don't you worry. They will come out of this one with their heads held high. Because, you see, their followers think exactly like they do, and they have no cognitive dissonance when it comes to this stuff. At least not the kind we might like them to. To them, killing abortion doctors is regrettable and wrong, but then again, seeing how it means saving innocent babies, every once in a while a mentally fragile conservative pushed to the brink by this crazy Obama liberalism is going to do it. The solution to ending the murders of abortion doctors? Ban abortion. QED.

If you don't believe me, keep watching Fox.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:41 PM
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1. Simply put - they feel a killer killed a killer, shrug and move on
Edited on Sun May-31-09 12:43 PM by The Straight Story
Of course, we look at bulls hurting humans as a good thing too:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5751784

Person hurt for doing their job. Good when we don't like the job, bad when we do.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:51 PM
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9. LOL. The Bent Story strikes again!
If your job is abusing animals, you should get hurt.

If your job is in the Taliban, you should get hurt.

Where did you get the idea that liberal = touchy feely nobody should ever get hurt?

There's lots of people I hope will get hurt. Like the scumbag who murdered this doctor.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:05 PM
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12. I am fine with that, point is we can't use them celebrating as a reason to complain
when we do the same thing.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:41 PM
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2. As if killing one abortion doctor will save any babies...
"Right to Life" only applies to the fetus. Everyone else is on their own.
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katanalori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:46 PM
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4. No one has mentioned
his personalized license plate? it is a numer (two hundred something) then BAB = BABY! MAYBE a # of abortions performed? Just maybe. If BAB=BABY, it will be hard to spin this as a "nut" and a "random" shooting.
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Rhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:50 PM
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7. That's the suspected shooter's license number, not Tiller's n/t
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katanalori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:02 PM
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11. yes, I meant the shooter's lic. plate -
sorry if I was not clear. the # was 225 (might even be a bible verse before the BAB (BABY).
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:19 PM
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14. I would determine how KS does its plate numbering before I went with that theory
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:28 PM
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15. They go by 123-ABC for standard plates
The most recent plates look like this;



And they go by 123-ABC for standard plates, so I'm not sure about that theory either.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:48 PM
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20. But vanity plates in KS are brown with a buffalo in the background
So it would be easy to tell if it was a vanity plate or not.
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:14 PM
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22. So Kansas allows 123-ABC type messages on personalized plates?
I would've thought such a message would conflict with the regular license numbering system in Kansas. Here in Iowa they probably wouldn't have let that go through on the grounds that it conflicted with the existing scheme.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:16 PM
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23. On the police press conference the captain said he did not know if it was a vanity plate or not
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:35 PM
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24. I'm not sure but I think they do
You are talking to someone who has never wanted a vanity plate so all I know is what I see on cars in the area.
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katanalori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:05 PM
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21. report said it was a PERSONLIZED plate.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:53 PM
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10. they are only about birth - after that the kid is on its own
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:43 PM
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3. It will all be about the damage that the killer did to the "movement"
It's all about the "movement" and what this portends for their political agenda, and how the "movement" can regroup. Nothing about the murder being an abomination.

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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:48 PM
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5. You Sir, have it all figured out.
These ideologues won't look at anything but the continuation of their movement.

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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:48 PM
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6. And if we were like them, here's what we would do -
1. Condemn all Christians, refusing to recognize any difference between any sect, creed or denomination.

2. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:51 PM
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8. Thats all bullshit framing. Aint gonna work.
This guy sought out this man for assassination. If he is not caught, the gunman roaming will be a rightwing bogeyman for evermore. If he is caught, they will be shown as rank hypocrites when they implore us to go easy on him. Every front they occupy, the republicans stir up hatred. Then, when their toothless haters act like cavemen, they recoil. This is all sticking to them. With this preponderance of proof of their treason in so many areas, I will work to make republican title history, like nazi.
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Baikonour Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:05 PM
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13. I'm really hoping this is the final nail in O'Reilly's coffin.
O'Reilly "vowed" to stop Tiller.
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:30 PM
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16. They are already trying to tie it to Obama
I posted it over here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8442667&mesg_id=8442751

They were stirring the shit pot for about a week now.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:37 PM
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17. The killer is a terrorist
ter·ror·ism (těr'ə-rĭz'əm)
n. The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition


Pending the almost inevitable discovery that this is the work of a "pro-life" :puke: activist.
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Baikonour Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:39 PM
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18. No, the right will respond in their true fashion: by being spineless.
I GUARANTEE that not ONE right wing talking head will touch on this story today or tomorrow.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:39 PM
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19. TERRORISM TERRORISM TERRORISM
IF the pundits on the left back off on the right term for the act, then this will becoem commonplace.

Revile them for the religiously insane fanatical terrorists they are.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:42 PM
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25. Operation Rescue has already condemned it
Seriously though, what would you have done if somebody had shot Rumsfeld in 2004? Would that suddenly make the Iraq war okay? Would that discredit your former protests of the war and prevent you from making future ones?

I have read one person who said that the anti-war movement lost some of its fervor after they blew up a the chemistry building in Madison, Wi and accidentally killed a graduate student.

But to me, extremist acts just discredit extremists.
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