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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:47 PM
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why the headlines 'abortion doctor'....he was a fucking doctor

Abortion doctor shot to death in Kansas
http://www.cnn.com/

Kansas abortion doctor shot to death
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/


Abortion Doctor Shot to Death in Church
http://www.nytimes.com/

Kansas Abortion Doctor Killed
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:50 PM
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LLStarks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:52 PM
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2. The title is appropriate considering that he was performing late-term abortions
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:12 PM
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11. bullshit
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:27 PM
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15. So here's another title
So called pro-lifers are terrorist murderers.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:26 PM
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24. Per the New York Times article regarding his performing late term abortions


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/us/01tiller.html?_r=1&ref=global-home

Leaders of national abortion rights organizations, meanwhile, expressed outrage. Some described Dr. Tiller as one of the only doctors in the nation who performed third-trimester abortions when the life or health of a mother was at stake, and said that his death would make it even harder for women in such circumstances to end their pregnancies.


He wasn't performing third trimester abortions because the mother decided in her 8th month she didn't want a baby. I doubt if any doctor would perform an abortion in the 3rd trimester if there wasn't a medical reason for it.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:32 PM
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25. The vast majority of what he did was other OB/Gyn stuff
You DO know that means OBSTETRICS, meaning pregnant women, and women giving birth, right?

And Gyn is gynecology, working with other female parts issues.

Just checking to make sure you know what type of doctor he was
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:54 PM
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3. What is a "fucking" doctor? Is that like Dr Ruth?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:36 PM
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29. Kansas fucking doctor shot to death.
:shrug:
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:56 PM
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4. Oops, this thread is bringing them out already.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:59 PM
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6. I don't call my doctor my "cancer" doctor.
I call him my oncologist. Dr. Tiller was an OB/GYN.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:00 PM
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7. Oops, I didn't mean to reply to you.
Sorry.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:05 PM
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10. boy the critters are everywhere
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:58 PM
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5. Ob-Gyn Docs are all "Evil Abortionists" now.
Haven't you gotten the memo from Rush?
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:02 PM
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8. I'm thinking that if he wasn't a doctor who performed abortions...
nary a DU thread would have been started in his name.

In my five years here, I can't remember a single thread that was started because of the murder of an MD, a proctologist, a doctor of radiology, or any other kind of medical doctor. That leads me to believe that the only reason DU'ers find this to be noteworthy is because he performed abortions.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:22 PM
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13. Now that is an interesting side of the coin to look at. . . . n/t
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:51 PM
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18. It's more like we are pissed that he was killed for his convictions.
We wouldn't start a thread if he was hit by a bus and died. The point is that it is even more tragic that assholes would kill him for such a ridiculous reason.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:38 PM
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20. I did not realize...
...that MDs, proctologists, radiologists and other medical doctors (apart from Ob/Gyns who perform abortions) were targeted because of their medical practice.

Gosh, the things you learn here at DU.

:sarcasm:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:34 PM
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27. When has a proctogolist, radiologist, or other MD been targeted because of his work?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:05 PM
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9. Better question: Why aren't headlines "Terrorist Kills Doctor"? (nt)
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:20 PM
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12. Because we do not know his motives yet. You are most likely correct BUT
it could be that the doc was having an affair with the murder's wife, performed an abortion on the man's wife against his stated wishes, or some other reason that is not terrorist motivated. Again, you are probably correct but I'll wait a little while for the rest of the story to come out.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:49 PM
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17. You make a good point.
You are right. I think we all know the end result will be terrorism, but you are absolutely right that it would be an irresponsible leap to conclusions.
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AlexanderProgressive Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:56 PM
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19. The killer had bomb components in his car once
Wouldn't that make him a terrorist even if it's true that he killed the doctor for say, infidelity issues?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:25 PM
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14. It's possible to go leave comments at the WaHo article, fyi. n/t
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 02:28 PM
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16. It's to be read similarly to "a young woman wearing a miniskirt was raped"...
Edited on Sun May-31-09 02:29 PM by BlooInBloo
I.e., they deserved it, is what they're conveying.
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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:37 PM
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31. Yes, or "Gay rape victim near death," or "Muslim boy beaten."
The implication isn't so much that they deserved it. Headlines are supposed to be "succinct 'n sensational."

Headlines that say "doctor murdered," or "rape victim near death" or "boy beaten" are run-of-the-mill relatively speaking, without the word that describes WHY the particular story is important, or WHY the crime was committed. Any news outlet that uses the latter type of headlines would easily be outsold by the one that packs a three-word punch in theirs.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:54 PM
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21. I think that's a legitimate headline - it helps understand the story.
"Abortion doctor murdered" gives one a much clearer understanding of the Tiller murder in only one word more than "doctor murdered" does.

Tiller was murdered because he performed abortions. Implying that in the headline makes sense.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:22 PM
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22. Performing abortions was only part of his practice
This is a comment left for his family at the legacy website

"May 31, 2009
I had the honor to meet Dr. Tiller when I was a scared pregnant teenager. He encouraged me to place my baby for adoption. I am forever grateful to him, as I was able to give her to a loving family. I will always remember Dr. Tiller as a wonderful man. May he rest in peace. May his family find comfort in their wonderful memories of him and in Jesus Christ. "

Gee, imagine that, an "abortion doctor" helping with adoption.

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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:26 PM
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23. Yes, but it's the part that got him killed
If you're trying to summarize the news story in 6 words or less (which is what headlines are for) then it's logical to include it for contextual reasons.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:33 PM
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26. Because it's relevant to the story.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:36 PM
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28. Because if they can get a person down to a caricature,
that person is no longer seen as human....and therefore, the crime is not really a crime.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:37 PM
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30. Yeah, that's exactly it.
:eyes:

Big time media conspiracy!!!1!1!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 11:04 PM
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32. If you don't believe in media collusion,
then you ain't well informed.
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