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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 06:06 PM
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"Proud Hungarians must prepare for war against the Jews"
Anti-Semitism surging in Hungary ---


http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1089550.html




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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 06:08 PM
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1. Sadly,the last 8 years have made hate more acceptable everywhere.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 06:26 PM
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2. A couple of points here
1) For the people who say "why do Jews need their own country?", this is why. Even today, after all the shit that's happened and despite the fact that Europeans should know better than to incite anti-Semitism (remember what happened all those other times?) crap like this still rears its ugly head more often than you think. Sure, it's not as big a deal as it was in the old days, but it's still around. And plenty of Jews from that part of the world would rather not put up with it anymore. Some of the more visionary ones grasped the fundamentals of the issue way back even before the Holocaust.

2) Hungarians: I've visited your country. It was fascinating and very nice. I thought the people were great even though it was the only European country I visited where I personally saw an overt manifestation of anti-Semitism. I'd love to go back. Budapest is one of the best places I've ever visited. I even prayed in your huge Synagogue. I appreciate the fact that you prevented the Nazis from torching it, and I also appreciate the fact that your German-allied fascist regime did a lot to protect the Hungarian Jewish population as long as possible. As a result, the Hungarian Jewish community had a much lower fatality rate than many neighboring countries (only :sarcasm: 50%)

However, let's be real. Assuming we Jews really are in the business of "buying" other countries, why would we pick yours first? Come on you fascist tools. Give us some credit here. If the "international Jewish conspiracy" headed by Shimon Peres was really going to invest all this time and effort in buying up another country, don't you think we'd start with one that had a way bigger economy, like France or the UK? Hungary, you're great, and I'm sure the vast majority of you aren't down with this band of imbiciles. But don't let your fascist/Nazi revisionist element get ahead of itself. Thank you.

Sincerely,
- An American Jew who *still* hasn't seen a single dividend check from this conspiracy thing
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 06:47 PM
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3. They were hoping to leverage it
for something better. Austria maybe. Or finland.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 06:51 PM
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4. C'mon, you gotta think abundant natural recourses!
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 11:56 PM
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7. I heard that a 12 year old Iranian candidate for president suggest moving Israel to Hawaii
Now honestly, I think that proposal has some merit. Coconut charoseth would be delicious, but if you think we've got problems now, wait 'till the grass skirts come into the picture. Talk about unintended consequences :)
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:21 PM
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5. Wow
rockymountaindem - You blew me away with that post. Excellent 'open letter'! :-)
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 08:20 PM
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6. Didn't you know, Rockymountaindem? The Jews don't need a country...
They will be protected by Saudi Arabia. Cut Israel up into sushi. The Saudis have this plan....

It's all about plans and "solutions." Or the "final" something or other....

What was that "road" thing they were talking about? Oh yeah. The Road Crap.





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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 04:12 AM
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8. Solve the problem of not having a country by ethnically cleansing someone else's ? n/t
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 02:08 PM
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9. Great idea. Let's ethnically cleanse 500,000 Jews out of the West Bank.
Arabs are allowed to live in Tel Aviv. But 500,000 Jews on the West Bank must be ethnically cleansed out of the West Bank. Great idea.

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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 03:36 PM
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11. Settlements are ethnic cleansing, period n/t
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:34 PM
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12. Great idea. Get rid of 500,000 Jews on the West Bank.
Ship them back to Poland. They had a great reception there a few decades ago.

Oh. Uh.... period.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:37 PM
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13. Apparently they prefer to get rid of the people that were living there first
I'm sure you wouldn't mind if a homeless family moved into your house while you were on vacation. It would all be your neighbors' fault if they refused to take you in afterward, of course.
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 06:06 PM
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16. Wow. Brilliant point.
Let's get rid of the Jews who were living on the West Bank for 2000 years and more, long before there was an Islam.

Who cares if Jews were driven out in the Hebron Massacre of 1929 on the West Bank long before the Six Day War and State of Israel, long before the area was "occupied" by Israel, the massacre of Jews in Nablus, and all the other massacres of Jews on the West Bank long before there was a state of Israel.

So. Simple method of morality: Kill the Jews and: It's mine now. Bang, bang, bingo. Now it's for the Arabs.


How did they say it in German?

"Juden raus."

"Jews out."



There are 500,000 Jews on the West Bank. Just get rid of them. Sure. Destroy their synagogues. Dig up their cemeteries. Smash their homes and farms. Ship them to Lithuania and Poland.

That's the solution. The final something.


Remember. Arabs are allowed to live in Tel Aviv. But if a Jew dares live within miles of an Arab on the West Bank, the Jew is a RACIST.

Just like in Saudi Arabia. No Jew is allowed to live in Saudi Arabia. Why? Because as the Saudis know, "The Jews are descended from pigs and monkeys."




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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 09:38 PM
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17. This is not about longstanding residents. This is about recent settlements
Those settlements are supported specifically for the purpose of water theft and ethnic cleansing.
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Sezu Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:52 PM
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15. the road map leads to the sea. n/t
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Sezu Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:51 PM
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14. Did you recently change your address? Everyone I know
has been getting their cheques.

:sarcasm:
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 02:26 PM
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10. Unfortunately, anti-Semitism in Hungary is nothing new.
Just ask Elie Wiesel. Sad to see how little has changed since the Holocaust, though.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 12:03 AM
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18. Proud Hungarians? The shame for what happened will never be washed away
I think the shame that the Holocaust has brought to Germany and its war-time allies including Hungary will carry on for generations and I doubt the general public in those countries will very enthusiastically welcome the dredging up of those terrible memories by these "proud" Hungarians, except for the psychotic few.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 12:04 AM
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19. But...but..but...things are getting better for the Jews...
...so many active anti-anti-Semites here assure me of it. :eyes:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 01:52 AM
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20. They need to be reminded that it's not 1933. n/t
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 01:57 AM
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21. Hungary Feb-April jobless rate rises to 9.9 pct
BUDAPEST, April 28 (Reuters) - Hungary's unemployment rate hit its highest level in nearly 13 years as the economy continued to suffer from the global economic crisis, the Central Statistics Office (KSH) said on Thursday.

The three-month rolling unemployment rate rose to 9.9 percent in the February-April period from 9.7 percent in January-March to hit its highest level since the third quarter of 1996, when it was also 9.9 percent, the KSH said.

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/afx/2009/05/28/afx6473523.html
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 02:05 AM
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22. And? Your point?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 02:14 AM
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23. I think it's pretty obvious. Scapegoating rises with unemployment.
Kinda like before Hitler.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 02:18 AM
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24. Some scapegoating never goes away.
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