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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 09:50 AM
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Suspect's son : "'He was saying goodbye to me"
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Scott P. Roeder, 51, had always been adamant about his Old Testament beliefs and observed the Sabbath from Friday night through Saturday. Nothing could get in the way of that. Not soccer games when his son was younger. Nothing.

But last Friday was different. He wanted to take his 22-year-old son to see Star Trek, then to dinner. It was like Roeder, who family said adopted extremist anti-government and anti-abortion views in the early 1990s, didn't want the evening to end, Lindsey Roeder said Monday.

"In hindsight, my son said, 'He was saying goodbye to me.'

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 09:53 AM
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1. "Roeder moved out of the home in 1994, she said, after he got involved with the Freemen movement"...
How very pro-family of them.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 10:10 AM
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2. Sounds heart warming.
He's lucky. Usually you read about people like this killing their family members before they go on a killing spree.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:18 AM
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7. I wouldn't call him lucky. Just shows how many families
this guy ruined.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 10:15 AM
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3. hmm....sounds like he (Roeder) had everything planned,
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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 10:21 AM
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4. That was my take as well
If he is in fact the killer then it apparently was planned well in advance.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 01:33 PM
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15. In other words he won't be able to use
the schizophrenic defense.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:58 AM
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12. *Premeditation* deletes the validity of an insanity defense and primes the pump for ...
a valid First Degree Murder Charge.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 10:29 AM
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5. What a wonderful, kindly old sociopath.
Truly heartwarming.

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:57 AM
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11. Absolutely Adorable in all sorts of f**ked up ways.
... too bad he couldn't have thought so COMPASSIONATELY about OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN (and grandchildren).
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:17 AM
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6. I feel sorry for his children.
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:46 AM
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8. "Scott P. Roeder, 51, had always been adamant about his Old Testament beliefs..."
Except, apparently, "Thou shalt not kill."

Excellent bit of reporting there.

mikey_the_rat
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:57 PM
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14. Unfortunately, also including "Thou shall not kill."
The 10 commandments are part of a set of metalaws which are shared by most nations/religions/brotherhoods/tribes. Most such sets of unbreakable "commandments" number between 8(strike adultery and coveting(7?) and theft?) and 12 (no idea, can anyone contribute?).

But all such commandments are only applicable when dealing with "one's own kind", against outsiders/other anything goes, whatever it takes.

The difference between us and them is that we appear to be willing to apply our "commandments" to a larger population than them.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:51 AM
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9. Whatever..his son sounds tragically
mentally challenged on his way to take a person's life..

proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-01-09 07:08 PM
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"Roeder's ex-wife says mental illness runs in his family."

She also said when faced with the choice of buying her heart medicine or a gun, he chose the gun.

She divorced him because his views on abortion were so radical.

Chilling interview just now on our local news.

Roeder's family life began unraveling more than a decade ago when he got involved with anti-government groups, and then became "very religious in an Old Testament, eye-for-an-eye way," his former wife, Lindsey Roeder, told The Associated Press.

"The anti-tax stuff came first, and then it grew and grew. He became very anti-abortion," said Lindsey Roeder, who was married to Scott Roeder for 10 years but "strongly disagrees with his beliefs."

"That's all he cared about is anti-abortion. 'The church is this. God is this.' Yadda yadda," she said.

Lindsey Roeder said that the early years of the marriage were good and that Scott Roeder worked in an envelope factory. But she said he moved out of their home after he became involved with the Freemen movement, an anti-government group that discouraged the paying of taxes. The Roeders have one son, now 22.

"When he moved out in 1994, I thought he was over the edge with that stuff," his ex-wife said. "He started falling apart. I had to protect myself and my son."
http://www.kctv5.com/politics/19626182/detail.html

His brother says he has a history of mental illness.
http://www.kctv5.com/news/19625209/detail.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5764249
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:54 AM
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10. No Junior, you'll be able to visit "dad" in the big house. NT.
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Blue For You Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:02 PM
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13. Uncle Sam is going to beam Scotty's ass up to prison!
:nopity:
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