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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:39 AM
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Oh, the irony! Hummer to be bought by the Chinese!!! NYT
NYT:

"The Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machinery Company Ltd., based in Chengdu, concluded the agreement with G.M., said the person, who insisted on anonymity . . . G.M. said the deal would save about 3,000 jobs in the United States, including those at its 153 domestic dealerships, and that Hummer would remain based in the United States . . . The brand has long sought to emphasize patriotism, stressing that the Hummer H1 was essentially the same vehicle built in the same factory as the Humvee that carries American soldiers into battle in Iraq and elsewhere."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/03/business/03auto.html?_r=1&hp

What's Ahhnold going to drive now?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:42 AM
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1. I'm shocked I tell you.
I assume the Chinese are banking on us never changing.

Let's hope they bet on the wrong horse...it seems they have.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:45 AM
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2. A lot of people on the left hate Hummer.
Now that it's to be Chinese owned, a lot of people on the right will hit Hummer, too.

Good riddance.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:46 AM
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4. I've never been able to understand the fascination with that behemoth
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 01:02 PM
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26. We looked at it as a RESCUE vehicle for about two days
it has some good things going for it, as a RESCUE vehicle.. like oh ground clearance.

But the maintenance and operational cost were too insane.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:13 PM
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15. Not sure it is the hummer they hate but what it represents..."War"
I hate "WAR" and think anything in the civilian arena that represents War is abhorrent. But that is just me and I realize the USA is a very War Mongering Nation..Can't imagine a communist country making our military vehicles from now on though, as much as the right wing hates communist countries..:shrug:
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:25 PM
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19. I take it you never buy anything with the....
Jeep logo on it? :shrug:
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 01:00 PM
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25. You mean GP
That was what they were when they were a part of the War effort. Stands for "General Purpose" vehicle and no I do not buy such items. Nor do I buy mini 14s or anything similar.. I hate "war" and all it represents and anything that reminds me of such..
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 01:11 PM
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27. Volkswagen and Mercedes too I hope.
And GM of course.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:29 PM
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21. Well... with a whopping 8 mpg and considering it's bigger than all parking spaces...
and most roads, people see it as the ultimate expression of selfishness.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:40 PM
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23. That's OK, they always take up two spaces, anyhow.
Or four, like the one I saw the other day in the supermarket lot. When I came back to my car, a woman was loading groceries into it.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:46 AM
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3. Ironic in the extreme.
I still can't figure out why anyone would want to own the Hummer brand.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:48 AM
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5. I was wondering the same thing. Are they REALLY going to keep making those d@mn things
or are they going to use the plant to start making some other kind of car??

Or just sell the place for scrap?

I can't believe even the STUPIDEST American would buy a Hummer now.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:57 AM
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I don't think they're serious about this, either.
Edited on Tue Jun-02-09 11:58 AM by bushmeister0
They'll probably just make a few hummers for show. The real plan is to be making tanks and hummers in the back room for their troops to use when our government goes broke. The Capital building isn't going to foreclose itself!
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:26 PM
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20. Why do you assume that it will be American's buying the new
Hummels?
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:41 PM
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24. I guess they could build them here and ship them to China, but that seems unlikely.
Unless you think they are going to stop making these:




And start making these:







Because tacky knows no borders.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:49 AM
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6. Obviously they want a larger cut of our defense spending
by becoming the company that outfits our soldiers.


Ugh.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:50 AM
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7. Future changes: the paint will be poisonous, and the interior door panels will give you bird flu.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:54 AM
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8. our future masters may be dooming themselves with the
same nail in the coffin we produced for ourselves.

irony doesn't fully cover this scenario.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:08 PM
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13. History is definitely ironic.
The Trojan Horse has been dragged within the walls.

Imperialist running-dogs my ass.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:57 AM
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9. Military Contracts....
So that means that a CHINESE company now gets all the US Military contracts to build Hummer.

How long before all US plants are closed and the Hummers are made exclusively with CHINESE labor?
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:04 PM
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10. Does Hummer actually make the HMMWV?
They licensed the HMMWV from AM General, and made it into the H1. They stopped making the H1, and the H2 and H3 are simply Tonka-truck shells on more conventional pick-up chassis.

What's known in the civilian world as the Hummer no longer has much to do with the military's HMMWV.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 01:40 PM
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31. The company is buying the commercial Hummer
not the military Hummer.
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:05 PM
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11. Made in China... will Walmart start selling them now?
Yesterday I joked about China buying the Hummer brand... now it's news.

Some people around here think Hummers are crap! Now they will be crap!


Still funny....
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:07 PM
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12. I thought GM sold off the military side of Hummer a while ago.
As for the rest of it, the H2 and H3 are nothing more than other GM SUV's with Hummer like bodies.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:09 PM
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14. In what way is this ironic?
Edited on Tue Jun-02-09 12:10 PM by AngryAmish
Is this an example, like the Alanis Morisette song, of people saying something is ironic when it is not?


on self edit: I am wrong. It is ironic that somethng that is supposed to be patriotically American is actually owned by a foreign entity. I guess I never thought Hummer was particuarly patriotic. My bad.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:13 PM
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16. The Red Chinese buying the company that makes the all American Hummer?
That's not ironic? (What do the Canadians know about irony anyway?)
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:18 PM
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18. Good point. Hummer is faux patriotic.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:15 PM
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17. They can have it.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:30 PM
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22. They could get Lewinsky as spokesperson: "Monica wants to give you a hummer."
I think there would be some appeal in that.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 01:31 PM
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28. Bring Bring...the 90's called, they want their Monica Lewinsky jokes back.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 01:34 PM
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30. Uh, yeah. Speaking of 90s jokes...
Seriously. David Spade and Adam Sandler were doing that routine on SNL when they were still young.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 03:31 PM
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32. Hehe...touche.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 01:32 PM
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29. US cars are popular in China
That was one thing I learned in China is the Chinese love European and American products and hate cheap Chinese crap just as much as Americans do. If they can afford an American car they will buy one.
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