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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 04:48 AM
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President Obama got a standing ovation from thousands who are against abortion
He was invited to speak at Notre Dame by a man who is opposed to abortion. When it comes to a abortion, I stand firmly with President Obama. There are people in the pro-life camp, people who want Roe v Wade overturned, who are not vicious or hateful. They believe abortion is wrong. They believe it's murder, but they don't believe in using incendiary language or endorse violence. I think they're wrong. I'll never agree with them on abortion, but I will not lump Father Jenkins or Doug Kmiec or my friend Jennifer with the hateful loons of Operation Rescue and their disgusting brethren anymore than I'll lump all Muslims together with the Taliban or all Christians with Randall Terry.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 04:55 AM
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1. Uh huh. Let me know when they protect an abortion clinic.
Let me know when they guard a doctor. Let me know how many unwanted children they've adopted and educated. Let me know when they really support LIFE.

They'll take the child and let the mother die.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 05:02 AM
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2. my point is simply that all people who oppose legal abortion are not
murderous thugs as some of the morans here claim. And some of them do live what they preach. I've never guarded a clinic or doc either, and I'm firmly pro-choice. I've never adopted a child either and I care about the welfare of children.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 05:36 AM
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4. This is DU where all painting is broad brush, there are no in-betweens or exceptions. n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 05:39 AM
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5. there are a lot of folks who wield nothing but a broad brush but
that's not everyone here. Personally, I'm not comfortable doing that. It's an excuse for thinking and it leads to stupid conclusions.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 05:49 AM
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7. No, not everyone, but it is not in the least bit uncommon here.
Take, for instance, Republicans. Everything a Republican does is bad and evil. They are bad and evil. If, by some bizarre chance, a Republican does something even semi-good, then if an admission is even begrudgingly made of that it must be coupled with how ordinarily bad and evil they are.

Yes, painting with a broad brush does save on thinking. Rush employs one all the time, but evidently it is wrong because he does it yet quite proper when it's done here.
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Believing Is Art Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 05:16 AM
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3. Err, one problem with that
They won't take the child either. Once it's born, it's on its own.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 05:47 AM
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6. He/she can join the military.
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Believing Is Art Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 04:37 PM
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8. They'll recruit them straight out of the womb
Bring a whole new meaning to infantry division.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 04:40 PM
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9. It's not about abortion. It's about self-determination for the lower classes
If the same people who are against abortion can stand shoulder to shoulder with women on the issue of choice and self-determination, then they're credible.

Otherwise, not so much.
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