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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 09:20 AM
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emptywheel: Why Did CIA Hide Dick Cheney’s Role in Briefing?
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Why Did CIA Hide Dick Cheney’s Role in Briefing?
By: emptywheel Wednesday June 3, 2009 4:29 am

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In one of my most unsurprisingly correct wildarsed guesses ever, Cheney was working with the CIA to keep his little torture program, and neither the CIA nor the Republicans he was arm-twisting want to talk about it.

But that ought to be worth some closer attention. WTF did the CIA hide Cheney's role in these briefings (not to mention the date of their briefing with McCain)? It reveals not only a desire to hide the degree to which these "briefings" under Porter Goss became active lobbying in support of torture, but also the degree to which the CIA is working actively, with a former Administration official (Cheney) to hide their collaboration.

The article does provide two more important details that add to the damning story.

Cheney's briefings on interrogations began in the winter of 2005 as the top Democrats on the Senate and House intelligence committees, Sen. John D. Rockefeller III (W.Va.) and Rep. Jane Harman (Calif.), publicly advocated a full-scale investigation of the tactics used against top al-Qaeda suspects.

On March 8, 2005 -- two days after a detailed report in the New York Times about interrogations -- Cheney gathered Rockefeller, Harman and the chairmen of the intelligence panels, Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) and Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.), according to current and former intelligence officials. Weeks earlier, Roberts had given public statements suggesting possible support for the investigation sought by Rockefeller. But by early March 2005, Roberts announced that he opposed a separate probe, and the matter soon died.

Cheney's efforts to sway Congress toward supporting waterboarding went beyond secret meetings in Washington. In July 2005, he sent David S. Addington, his chief counsel at the time, to travel with five senators -- four of them opponents of the CIA interrogation methods -- to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. On the trip, Sen. Graham urged Addington to put the interrogations at secret prisons and the use of military tribunals into a stronger constitutional position by pushing legislation through Congress, rather than relying on executive orders and secret rulings from Justice Department lawyers.


First, the WaPo reports that Jello Jay pushed for an investigation, but Pat Roberts quashed it. I guess that explains why Roberts is so quiet now. But in case anyone wanted any more affirmation that Democrats opposed torture and Republicans sustained it, there's yet one more data point.

And then yet another Gitmo trip for Addington, this time with some Senators in tow. Was this an all-Republican affair as well? The question is particularly relevant, since Lindsey Graham has helpfully reminded us that all these Republican-only briefings are proof of criminal intent. Or was it just Graham, McCain and the few other anti-torture Republicans, off on a field trip to be coerced by Cheney's right hand man?

If anyone needed yet more proof that torture was Cheney's baby, his active lobbying of Congress--hidden as "CIA briefings"--ought to do the trick.

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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 09:22 AM
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1. Kick n stuff
I love Marcy Wheeler. I shall read this.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 01:41 PM
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6. Me, too. She's been all over every position darth has taken,
and there've been lots.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 09:40 AM
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2. I Asked This Question In An Earlier Post - Why Does The CIA Continue To Lie And Protect Cheney?.....
Cheney is out of power now. I don't think he can touch CIA. So why are they making no mention of his role in these meetings that he oversaw?

Right now they are bigger and more powerful than him.

I think if I was Cheney I would be more worried about the CIA than the CIA being worried about Cheney. Something just doesn't seem right here. Something else is going on. Some kind of cover-up.

Now someone indicated that the CIA is up to it's neck in this as well. But can't the CIA argue that they were taking their orders from Cheney? Isn't there a new head of CIA under Obama? If the CIA was involved - that would be the BushCo CIA. So why is the CIA continuing to protect Cheney and by proxy - BushCo?
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 09:45 AM
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4. What does Cheney know about the CIA and what do they know about him?
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 11:39 PM
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12. and just who did
implode tower number 7? Your sig reminds us all...never forget. 9/11 was an inside job.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 09:53 AM
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5. I think the CIA has lots to hide themselves, like their complicity
in pulling the wool over everyone's eyes. Sure, that was probably at the behest of Cheney, but still makes them look just like him.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 02:37 PM
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8. A very important question. There is only one answer that makes sense
and puts all the puzzle pieces together....
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 09:41 AM
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 02:08 PM
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 02:57 PM
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9. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, babylonsister.:thumbsup:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 03:15 PM
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10. The CIA & Merc Contractors were torturing detainees
on the demand of Cheney before those bogus memos from Bushco Lawyers typed out the memos green lighing Torture. War Crimes were commited!!!
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 03:24 PM
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11. The CIA cofirms often why they shouldn't be trusted
...eom
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