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LadyHawkAZ Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 04:30 PM
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My thoughts on the anti-abortion assassins
I've been watching the assassination of Dr. Tiller fade from the headlines already. I think the majority of the MSM, except for MSNBC- seem to want it to just go away.

I also realized how angry I am. Not just about Dr. Tiller specifically but the issue in general and the second-class status I still enjoy as a female in America. It struck me last night that women in this country lost a little more of their human status Sunday morning, with the death of one person who thought we were still human even when pregnant and acted on that belief in the face of pretty heavy odds. I don't know if I was the only one who thought of that. Probably not.

But it made me angrier and it got me thinking- while we are holding vigils and blogging and praying and reporting, these terrorists are *organizing*. This will happen again, because they are better organized and better equipped than we are. And that's not right. There are too many of us out there to allow this state of affairs to continue.

I took part in the Obama campaign last year and saw millions of people, many of whom disagreed with each other on any number of issues, all coming together in support of one man and one ideal. What the campaign had was not just a good candidate but fantastic organization and dedication, and what was astounding was how much of it took place in cyberspace. The Obama campaign site was one of the best setups I've ever seen. Why isn't something similar being done here, with this issue? Why DON'T we have a central base to work from? Somewhere where people could volunteer, events could be organized, information could be grouped by area and sent to members there, where clinics could contact for help.

We have any number of organizations at are disposal- NOW, PP, NARAL, etc. Why aren't they working together? We have all this scattered power, why aren't we focusing it? We can STOP this. "We the people" have pulled off miracles before. Why not now? Why can't we end this war now? With this killing? This is #8. Obviously whatever we're doing, we're doing it wrong, or there would never have been a #2.

I don't have the technical expertise to program a site, but I'd be more than willing to help run it.

Am I all alone out here, thinking this? Because something needs to be done, and done quickly.

Thoughts?
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 04:33 PM
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1. It's past the point where the FBI should have done something.
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chrisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 04:35 PM
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2. The FBI is not that powerful
Out of all the criminal behavior and nuts that roam around America, they probably catch at most 5% of them.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 04:38 PM
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4. And they never catch the ones they never go after
They knew Roeder was dangerous. He vandalized a clinic 24 hours before he assassinated Tiller and the FBI was notified. They did NOTHING.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 04:43 PM
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6. They didn't even need to find Roeder. All they had to do is go pick him up
at his house. They had evidence on tape and they had his name and address and plate number.

This was entirely fucking preventable.
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LadyHawkAZ Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 04:35 PM
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3. Long past
That's what I was trying to say- if it's going to be stopped, it's got to be by us ordinary people. We've had thirty-six years of precious little help and it's not working.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 04:42 PM
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5. We need to write to Eric Holder, imo. He's the best shot we have
to get something moving.
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LadyHawkAZ Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 04:50 PM
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9. Might help
but IME authorities are slow to move and short on manpower. More needs to be done. I don't want to gamble my freedoms, such as they are, on the hope that one already busy AG might get around to doing something about them. Especially when they're politically toxic.

I went looking for someplace to volunteer for clinic escort today, and couldn't find any information on who to contact or where might be needing the help. And I'm an hour's drive from a big city where to my certain knowledge there's at least two active clinics. Shouldn't we have some central site where they could ask and we could sign up? And where we could centralize petition drives? I get them now from three different organizations, I don't see why we couldn't consolidate all this and put it in one place.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 05:05 PM
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11. Maybe we need our own fifty state strategy.
Get someone to take responsibility for each to gather informatio0n and identify need and etc. That's a lot of work.

There has to be an existing infrastructure somewhere -- even one we could piggyback off of -- an association of women's health care providers, something.
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LadyHawkAZ Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 05:07 PM
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12. I'm writing...
I'm writing to a few organizations as we speak. "Fifty state strategy"- good way to put it. That's exactly what I mean.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 05:49 PM
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13. If you hear back, let me know.
It's time. :hi:
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 04:46 PM
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7. The organizations you mention that you expect to step up -
are more worried about the DC social/dinner scene than actual issues that matter to those beyond the beltway. They are totally compromised.

There are several websites devoted to women's issues. DU is not one of them. Keep looking. Good luck.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 04:48 PM
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8. The sad reality is that a lone nut can get a gun and kill almost anyone

At the same time another nut killed an Army recruiter in AR.


What we can do is to attack the propogandists, those that make millions from this hate at Fox and the companies that advertise on them.


Welcome to DU.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 05:00 PM
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10. But this person was a known quantity with priors.
The only reason that doctor is dead is because there was no political will.

And the worst thing is that people like this guy escalate when they see that no one stops them. You bet he's someone's hero right now and we will see more unless a strong statement is made by someone. And I don't mean a blurb from Obama.

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