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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 08:56 PM
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Mark F**king Sanford: Guns, not Education, at schools
:argh:




from ThinkProgress:



Sanford’s Priorities: Nix School Funding And Reform, Allow Guns At School

Gov. Mark Sanford (R-SC) has been waging a months-long war against the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, refusing to apply for $700 million in federal stimulus funds, most of which would go to improving South Carolina’s failing schools.

Yet denying his state needed stimulus funds is just the start of Sanford’s recent highly partisan moves. Yesterday, ThinkProgress reported that Sanford had refused to join a national school reform effort to set curriculum standards. Sanford claimed that he refused to sign on because the “governor does not have a role in implementing education policy.”

Now the governor has taken action on two bills that show where his priorities really lie: He vetoed a bill reigning in predatory payday lending, and signed a bill allowing loaded guns on school grounds.

Reinforcing his ideological approach, Sanford claimed that regulating payday loans was incompatible with “limited government and maximized individual freedom.” State Sen. Joel Lourie (D) replied, “His vision for South Carolina is for ineffective, underfunded schools, for kids buying cheap cigarettes and for unprotected consumers.”

The gun law Sanford signed allows anyone with a concealed weapons permit to leave a gun in their car while parked at a school so that, according to the bill’s sponsor, teachers can more fully exercise their rights:

“I’m not trying to bring firearms inside the school,” said Martin, R-Spartanburg. “You don’t need to carry it inside the school. But I’ve had teachers tell me they can’t exercise their (Second Amendment) rights traveling to and from school. They ought to be able to travel to school without having to leave their weapon.”


So while Sanford refuses to fix crumbling schools or prevent thousands of teacher layoffs or crack down on some of the most predatory lending practices around, he was willing to join a freshman senator’s “grand gesture” to the NRA. It must be more of that “reform” Sanford has trumpeted.


http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/03/sanford-priorities-guns/



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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 09:05 PM
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1. I'd like to know what the rest of the story is.
Refusing $700 million for no reason seems unlikely. Maybe a bad reason, but there is a reason.

And he just corrected a stupid law with the new gun law.

I'd think there is much more to all of this.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 09:06 PM
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2. Not really. Mark Sanford is an idiot.....He's proven it time and time again.
n/t
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 09:09 PM
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3. You do realize..
That many states,even California allows permit holders to carry guns IN schools? And many allow in the parking lots? Don't you?

Brady don't even complain about that...ROFLMAO, that is because they truly do not know their asses for a hole in the wall.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 09:11 PM
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4. Mon dieu......!
The gun issue isn't the only one the ThinkProgress piece deals with. There's the whole matter of opting out of education reform....

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 09:17 PM
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5. not for the born again gun folks. nt
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 09:19 PM
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6. Ain't that the gospel truth.....
n/t


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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 09:25 PM
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7. This is the rule for faculty at my university: leave your gun in your locked car.

I've not heard of any problems at any GA universities.

Of course, the law does not allow this practice in primary or secondary schools.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 10:23 PM
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9. A bunch of folks don't realize that many states
allow concealed carry holders onto school grounds to pick up / drop off kids, others exempt parking lots, and yet more allow them in the schools themselves. Laws vary by state, and even one teacher here at DU didn't know that her state allows CCW in the parking lot.

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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 11:53 PM
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11. I think, MORE states allow guns on school grounds, for permit holders than don't.
Edited on Wed Jun-03-09 11:55 PM by virginia mountainman
But, Brady, being brain dead, is too busy, worrying about Texas.....

Let me clarify, most states, do not DISALLOW, guns on school grounds, and by not disallowing them, they are clearly allowed, California, Oregon, Washington, even Colorado (among many others), does not, have laws AGAINST guns on campus...

A excerpt from the "Gun Free School Zones" act...

(B) Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the possession of a firearm—
(i) on private property not part of school grounds;
(ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so by the State in which the school zone is located or a
political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or political subdivision requires that, before an
individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify
that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license;


I have a feeling, another thread, trashing the Anti-Gun Side's short sightedness may be in the offering. They can't help it, they are ignorant of the law....

Yes, they can, they are WILLFULLY ignorent...

This is why they fail.....


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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 09:29 PM
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8. sounds like that nutzo gun dealer who supplied both Cho and the Red Lake shooter n/t
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 11:46 PM
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10. "signed a bill allowing loaded guns on school grounds"
"signed a bill allowing loaded guns on school grounds" as opposed to unloaded guns on school grounds?

Good thing they clarified. OH NOES. Not just guns but LOADED guns!
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