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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 12:10 PM
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Columnist Howard Troxler: Crist "sells Florida down the river" in "gutless fashion"
I was hoping after hearing that Charlie had caved in and signed SB 360 in secret that it was really not as bad as we thought. Then I read Howard Troxler's column, and yes, it is just as bad as we thought it was.

From the St. Pete Times and a favorite columnist:

Crist signs growth bill, sells Florida down the river

In the defining moment of his career Monday, Gov. Charlie Crist sold the state of Florida right down the river. He did it in a gutless fashion, too, waiting until the close of business to send out a brief announcement that he was signing Senate Bill 360.

Look. If you're going to destroy your state to get elected to the U.S. Senate, be proud of it. Do it at a news conference. Surround yourself with bulldozers and smiling developers. Order a cake.

But apparently he couldn't quite fit this one in with all those other bill-signing ceremonies he's been racking up:

The battle for Florida is finished now. It's over.


"Tough noogies" for most of us.

So if you live in a "dense urban area" in Florida — which this law brilliantly defines as more than ONE PERSON PER ACRE …

If you live in any of Florida's biggest counties, including Hillsborough and Pinellas, or in one of more than 200 Florida cities … If you live anywhere that your local government labels as a "community redevelopment area" …

Or even if you have the misfortune of living where somebody wants to build a "job creation project" …

Then tough noogies for you.


This is a terrible law which will make it easier for developers to do whatever they want.

The bill rewrites Florida's 25-year-old growth management law, principally by allowing developers in the most urban counties to add more housing developments without expanding roads and by allowing counties and cities to designate new urban areas that also would be exempt from certain road-building requirements.

..."..."The new law is designed to make it easier to build new residential housing, even as Florida wallows in a glut of housing caused by the foreclosure crisis.Crist signed the bill in private with no public ceremony. His press office issued a terse news release that attributed no quotations to Crist endorsing the legislation.

Florida's growth management act gutted.


Yes, Charlie probably had nothing at all to say about that signing. What does a governor say when he just sold his state to developers for a very long time.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 12:17 PM
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1. I was recently in Orlando for the better part of 5 months on internship.
The city, frankly, suffers from sprawl and gridlock. To build more housing developments and then not pay money to expand roads is just going to make things even worse. On top of it, the mass transit network is appallingly decrepit. A city the size of Orlando in France, Germany, or the UK would have a very extensive light-rail network and/or a giant fleet of buses to service the city. The Lynx buses in Orlando get you some places, for sure, but they simply don't cover enough ground. You have to use a taxi for everything else, and the taxis are expensive.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:03 PM
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4. worse than that
Orlando isn't even a city, not the "greater Orlando Metro area". It's not even one county, spread over the better part of 3 counties, and beginning to encroach on its forth (Lake out by Clermont). It's sprawl with a capital S. There isn't a city of this physical size, with such a low population density in France, Germany, or the UK with which to compare. Which of course is the problem. Public transport doesn't work well in such highly distributed areas. There isn't even really a "central area" because it is a merged area of or 4 different major population "centers" as nearby cities have grown into each other. We took a 13 mile walk one day, never left an urban area, and walked through 5 different city governments. I worked a suicide hotline for a while. We had to work with no less than 13 different police departments in the area (including county and state cops). It's absurd with the predictable results of uncoordinated infrastructure, redundant governmental departments, and conflicting regulations and activities. It's a textbook example of how not to run a city.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 12:25 PM
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2. But didn't he win the last election?
The voters of Florida did vote for him and the Repuke majority in the State Legislature?

I guess the next time state elections roll around the people of Florida will be smarter and send the Repukes packing?


I'm sorry if any Floridians here take offense, but you have the politicians that the majority of the people of Florida voted for in charge, so perhaps part of the blame belongs to those people as well? Either that or we're starting to see the real life version of "Idiotcracy"?
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 12:59 PM
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3. He just lost his election bid....n/t
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:26 PM
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5. It's difficult to avoid blaming the voters who installed these weasels
I really hope that something approaching reform begins to take shape in Florida. It's way past due from my reading of Carl Hiassen's writing. But it's up to the people to decide that they're tired of letting the most corrupt elements run their state and its affairs. Or they can keep kicking the can down the road, and let another generation of Floridians deal with it. That's what their parents and grandparents did.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 05:21 PM
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7. The GOP is against Crist...he is too liberal for them.
The more extreme right here intends to run hard against him for senate.

Florida needs more outspoken Democrats....not a bunch of party leaders who take wishy washy stands.

That's a lot of the problem. Our state chair gets what..$3000 a month from lobbying with Republicans. Our South Florida major Democrats in congress stand often with the GOP buddies.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 09:11 PM
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6. Three other journalists rip Crist's decision
Hat Tip to FLA Politics blog for pulling these together.

Florida political news June 4

From the Miami Herald

It poses such a threat that even some pro-growth commissioners on the Miami-Dade County Commission approved a resolution asking the governor to veto it. One of the bill's biggest flaws is removal of state oversight of a Development of Regional Impact. Until now the Department of Community Affairs has had authority over DRIs, which are just what they imply: developments of such large scope that they impact an entire region.

They bring more traffic, more demand for classrooms, more use of water and sewer systems. Their swelling of the local population can even affect hurricane evacuation times. ...

Mr. Crist, who is running for the U.S. Senate, has made a bad call at a time when his leadership was most needed.


From the Tampa Tribune

The Tampa Tribune editorial board: "Now that Gov. Charlie Crist has signed into law a major weakening of growth rules, Hillsborough and other urban counties appear to have lost the power to force developers to help pay for new or improved roads." "Toothless growth law".


From the Orlando Sentinel

Mike Thomas: "Charlie Crist and his Republican cohorts just depressed the future value of your house. They did this by gutting the state's growth-management law. We tend to equate rampant paving with crowded schools, traffic jams and environmental destruction. But this time around, the impact extends to home prices." "Crist & Co. pave way for lower home values".
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 09:59 AM
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8. Liberals who have been enamored by Crist just saw
the real Charley.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 10:12 AM
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9. Now, you really can buy some swamp land in Florida
He's so moderate, he's so centrist, he's so charming, blah balh blah. Republicans have pushed themselves of the extremist cliff, Democrats are filling the vacuum left behind. Like Florida, there are few left in congress who believe there is a public role in regulation and protection of natural resources. Democrats are the new conservatives. US tax payers are the new chumps.

From the link... notice the word "balanced". Fox news would agree.

'I'm trying to be balanced on it and I know that it's probably one of those bills where nobody's going to be overly happy on either side of the argument,'' Crist told reporters a few hours before he acted. ``So hopefully it's right down the middle, and we'll be able to stimulate our economy and not do harm to our beautiful state. That's my desire.''

The new law is designed to make it easier to build new residential housing, even as Florida wallows in a glut of housing caused by the foreclosure crisis.

Crist signed the bill in private with no public ceremony. His press office issued a terse news release that attributed no quotations to Crist endorsing the legislation.
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