Sibel Edmonds: Obama Will VETO Any Bill Limiting Abuse Of "State Secrets" Claims

Obama Reportedly Telling Congress He Will Veto Any Bill Limiting Abuse of "State Secrets" Claims:

Tuesday, June 9, 2009
The Current Battle against State Secrets Privilege
‘Sanitization’ is not the answer
By Sibel Edmonds

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Finally, I decided to dig further and explore the reasons behind these significant omissions and the accompanying information spin that seems to be packaged with the intention of fulfilling Washington’s objective - seeing the related campaign and activities fail. Of course, based on my own case and experience with SSP, I had my own theories as to why the issue was being narrowed down to certain ‘selected’ cases and interpretations; counterproductive to the objective shared by SSP recipients and organizations who have been truly active in seeking to have it abolished or reformed through congressional legislation. But I was also interested in getting the opinions of those who have been actually involved with these cases, either as plaintiffs or attorneys representing SSP cases, or even a few trusted insiders in Congress with direct knowledge. So I contacted several and include their views and interpretations here.

The Congressional Angle

A well seasoned congressional staff member connected to a well-known ‘Centrist’ office active in the current SSP debate, who ‘insisted’ on being granted anonymity, had the following to say:

“Contrary to what they may claim in order to pacify the recent ‘Anti State Secrets Privilege’ movement, the Congress does not want to deal with this issue. And this applies to members of both parties…of course we will hold a couple of hearings and show we have investigated and reviewed cases...”


He then went on to list several enlightening points regarding the ‘real’ factors driving the current position on SSP:

* We are being told that the president (Obama) will veto any proposed legislation dealing with State Secrets Privilege…that and that no one in Congress really wants to touch this area. Having the press limit the information to ‘War on Terror Suspects’ helps both: the President and the reluctant Congress.

* The cases before us are ‘selectively’ related to the War on Terror. A few Arab guys with their claims will not bring sympathy from the majority in this country. Not in Iowa, not in Utah…you catch my drift?


much more:
http://123realchange.blogspot.com/2009/06/current-battle-against-state-secrets.html

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More and more people are reporting the fact that this isn't a "change" administration, but rather just a kinder, gentler face on the same ol' two party/same corporate master system of government.

K&R

not surprised, kp

Barack Obama is MY Democratic President, and although I won't agree with him all the time, I will support him! I absolutely REFUSE to contribute to the destruction of his presidency or the election of a republican president in 2012, unlike most of the posters in this discussion.

As long as he's killing us with KINDNESS, we should just roll over like good little serfs and take whatever crumbs that we are so generously allowed to have.

Now fall in line, Citizen.

At least he's not being MEAN about it, like that other selected Dictator.

:crazy:

...for this & all your support in the last few years here at DU.

Sibel

how could I NOT support you
you bring light!
peace,
with humility and respect, kp

Your bravery is an inspiration.

Never forget that. :)

about your efforts.

thank you for trying to make a difference

with much respect, admiration and appreciation...


keep on your great work. :)

:applause:

:applause:

Good for you. The garbage you've had to put up with would have destroyed other people.

so well (he can pronounce nuclear and everything), and I bet he would never grab another state leader and try to administer a massage. Plus, look at these cool pacifiers we got.
:eyes:

And the clock keeps ticking...

Of those who can see and want REAL Change, and those who are willing to be killed with kindness.

"Power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely."

He is controlled like every other recent US president.

Which is the case. Like most politicians, Obama is looking toward the next election and playing it safe by taking a "middle" course to satisfy the "middle" and keep the power of the executive to keep secrets. Despite the "transparency in government" sloganeering.

"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."

Interesting story linked on Sibel's blog regarding Marta Andreasen. Maybe Sibel might run for office? :think:

:kick:

tyrannical machinations by our Democratic and Republican elected officials.

It's feeling more and more like 1930's Germany every day. . . except without the massive party rallies and military parades. Oh wait, we couldn't have those parades since most of our military are overseas "defending" us.

Recommend.

So infuriating. So unjust.

I have lost all hope.


peace~

With the President and a lot of puppies and kids.

;)

this is totally relevant in this thread.

,...having been committed against them? After all, "the people" have been unwitting victims and MUST BE ABLE to go forward with prosecutions.

If these matters were a simple matter akin to prosecuting a common citizen, is there any doubt charges would be filed? However, even Miss Sibel knows well the complexities involved and associated with incredibly powerful people.

Does it make one damn bit of difference? Fuck no.

As long as it's done nicely to you, you'll just roll over and take it.

Pathetic.

All I see here is whining and complaining. 38 years ago when I first started working, my boss told them that if there was something I wasn't happy about, I could tell him. But he also said that I should be prepared with an alternate. I've been doing that ever since.

Unfortunately the culture here has been to complain, complain, complain with NO solutions.

I'd say those that have nothing to offer but whining are the ones who are deluded.

at this point I couldn't care less, because, really, tell me what would be different. I will never vote for this one again. I am moving in a week and a half and will be changing my registration to Independent at that time. I will also be writing in Kucinich or some other genuinely progressive candidate in 2012.

gave themselves would just vanish when Obama came into office? Really?

I'll admit it, I was a fool, though I really wanted to vote for Kucinich. I chose "the lesser of two evils" but see now that "change" was an empty campaign slogan that meant absolutely nothing.

:)

There seems to be a lot of discussion by laymen, some of which is bafflingly inaccurate and bizarre.

if he vetos that.

The peeps ain't gettin any 'representation' here.....I don't see any other good candidates, unless it's Howard Deam or Dennis Kucinich.

the opaque bits probably have some saudi hiding beneath them?

justice practiced and justice pursued. I hope we are not learning that the only economy that is important to our President is the economy that sustains profits from injustice and perpetuates world wide wall street type crime.

The little people, Obama. The little people. You're not going to make it or keep it without us. And you're slipping up.

Who are we going to trust if you slip more.

(Sadly, I ask to be corrected, to catch myself and the deductions I draw - if where I'm at is a result of lack of knowledge, but no one replies.)
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Doesn't matter which president gets the thing passed. No president is gonna give it back.

"Obama Reportedly Telling Congress..........."

"A well seasoned congressional staff member connected to a well-known ‘Centrist’ office active in the current SSP debate, who ‘insisted’ on being granted anonymity..."

ONE HUNDRED PERCENT SPECULATION!!!! This entire post is pure, unsubstantiated, subjective BULL!