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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:44 AM
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UN Rapporteur: Rumsfeld in Trouble
The senior United Nations expert on the integrity of legal processes states that beginning next year, Donald Rumsfeld will have difficulties traveling outside of the United States because of his connection to war crimes. The official, Leandro Despouy, drew his conclusions based largely on a review of the recently released report of the Senate Armed Services Committee, which directly connected the mistreatment of prisoners to policy decisions taken by Rumsfeld. Despouy is a well-known Argentine human rights lawyer and diplomat who has served as the United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Independence of Judges and Lawyers since 2003.

Despouy also strongly supported the initiative of President Barack Obama to close the detention facility at Guantánamo.

Despouy said the “strong resistance” put forward by the former US administration to current US president Barack Obama’s decision to close the detention centre has nothing to do with the officially cited reason of “national security” considerations. Rather they are fearful that they may be taken to task once the detention centre is closed, said Despouy.

His comments echoed those of another senior U.N. expert, Manfred Nowak, who said that the United States had a formal legal obligation to open a criminal investigation into the use of torture by the Bush Administration and to prosecute those who developed torture policy.

http://harpers.org/archive/2009/06/hbc-90005121
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:51 AM
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1. Fat chance Rumsfeld will be brought up on charges...
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 08:52 AM
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6. You may be right, but
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." - attributed to Edmund Burke
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 08:53 AM
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7. He's a private citizen now, and there's more info available than before
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:52 AM
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2. Oh goody! The thought of Rumsferatu arrested for war crimes outside the US...
...makes me giddy!!! And perhaps while he is in custody someone will drive a stake through his black heart!

bush*, cheney*, rumsfeld and rice = war criminals!:kick:

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 08:13 AM
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3. Republicon war criminals
Lies, manipulation, torture, and profit-making mercenary and munitions corporations. Soooo Republicon.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 08:44 AM
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4. 'Arrest threat' to Rumsfeld trip (BBC 2005)
The US defence secretary has said he is considering whether to attend a conference in Germany, where he may face arrest for war crimes.

Donald Rumsfeld is due to attend a gathering of high-level defence officials and experts next week.

But he says he has not yet decided whether or not to attend the conference in the German city of Munich.

US lawyers representing Iraqis who say they were abused in US custody have filed a complaint with a German court ...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4236489.stm
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 08:46 AM
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5. Rumsfeld Flees France, Fearing Arrest (2007)
World News. Posted October 29, 2007.

Anti-torture protesters in France believe that the defense secretary fled over the open border to Germany, where a war crimes case against Rumsfeld was dismissed by a federal court.

Former U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld fled France today fearing arrest over charges of "ordering and authorizing" torture of detainees at both the American-run Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq and the U.S. military's detainment facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, unconfirmed reports coming from Paris suggest.

U.S. embassy officials whisked Rumsfeld away yesterday from a breakfast meeting in Paris organized by the Foreign Policy magazine after human rights groups filed a criminal complaint against the man who spearheaded President George W. Bush's "war on terror" for six years.

Under international law, authorities in France are obliged to open an investigation when a complaint is made while the alleged torturer is on French soil ...

http://www.alternet.org/story/66425/
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 08:54 AM
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9. payback is a bitch isn't it Rummy.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 08:53 AM
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8. Rumsfeld is 77 years old - this isn't much of a restriction
I don't think its going to bother him very much that he won't be able to travel to some parts of the world.
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Juan_de_la_Dem Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 10:25 AM
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10. What are we Paraguay or something?
If the world will arrest these guys the minute they set foot ouside the US, how do we justify not doing it ourselves. Shameful
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 10:33 AM
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11. Snort

"...will have difficulties traveling outside of the United States because of his connection to war crimes"

Yeah...because inside the United States war criminals are paraded around on TV as experts, write books about how great their war crimes were, and teach at universities.

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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:39 PM
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12. The "echoed" comments were about Obama.
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE53H1Y020090418">Obama reprieve for CIA illegal
VIENNA (Reuters) - President Barack Obama's decision not to prosecute CIA interrogators who used waterboarding on terrorism suspects amounts to a breach of international law, the U.N. rapporteur on torture said.

"The United States, like all other states that are part of the U.N. convention against torture, is committed to conducting criminal investigations of torture and to bringing all persons against whom there is sound evidence to court," U.N. special rapporteur Manfred Nowak told the Austrian daily Der Standard.


But I don't imagine our extradition treaties are going to be enforced any more than our torture treaties.

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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 05:04 PM
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13. k&r
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 05:06 PM
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14. you mean we have to keep him here?? nt
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