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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:24 AM
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Dr. Warren Hern: "They want the rest of us killed."
Family of Slain Abortion Provider Dr. George Tiller Announces Permanent Closure of Wichita Clinic


The family of murdered abortion provider Dr. George Tiller has announced the permanent closure of his Wichita, Kansas clinic, eliminating one of the few medical practices in the country that performed late-term abortions. We speak with a close friend of Dr. Tiller’s, Dr. Warren Hern, who is one of the last doctors in the country to perform late-term abortions. We’re also joined by a genetic counselor critical of her group, the National Society of Genetic Counselors, for not putting out a public statement condemning Dr. Tiller’s murder.

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DR. WARREN HERN: Well, there was a—yeah, there was a—after the first two American doctors were assassinated in 1993, 1994, Dr. David Gunn, Dr. John Britton, and probably the owner of that clinic was assassinated, but we don’t have firm information about that, but the Catholic priest who made a statement declaring that killing doctors who do abortion justifiable homicide organized a group, and a bunch of people signed his petition that agreed with him. And one of them was a guy named Paul Hill, who then assassinated Dr. Britton and his bodyguard.

And this same group of people organized a group called the American Coalition of Life Activists, so-called, and on January 22nd, 1995, they had a press conference in Virginia and announced their hit list of the first thirteen doctors they wanted eliminated. You know, the Mafia has the decency to keep its hit list private. You know, the Mafia is a decent, upstanding, respectable civic organization compared to the anti-abortion movement in this country. The anti-abortion movement in this country is the face of fascism in America.

AMY GOODMAN: Dr. Hern—

DR. WARREN HERN: And they announced this hit list, and I was put under federal protection, along with Dr. Tiller, who was also on this list. The Republican Congress removed the appropriations for this, pulled the money support for this whole thing. The federal protection was dropped.

AMY GOODMAN: Dr. Hern, has anyone reached out to you from the anti-abortion movement, like the Right to Life Committee?

DR. WARREN HERN: I have nothing—I have no time to talk to these people. They have been trying to get us killed for decades. Their statements that they’re dismayed about Dr. Tiller’s assassination is hypocritical nonsense. These people got exactly what they wanted. They wanted Dr. Tiller dead. They wanted Dr. Tiller’s clinic closed. And they want the rest of us killed. They have made that very clear. So when they make a statement about this—you know, they have gone around demonizing doctors, vilifying doctors, all of us, in the newspapers and speeches and bloody posters, you know, calling us murderers and baby killers and so forth. And Randall Terry is unrepentant. He goes and calls Dr. Tiller a mass murderer. I mean, it’s outrageous. These people, they’ve condemned—people like Dr. James Dobson, who pretends to be a minister, who goes on national radio and vilifies Dr. Tiller and me and other people, I mean, this is just crocodile tears. This is nonsense. These people are hypocrites, and they are dangerous terrorists.

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/6/10/tiller

Audio, video, transcript at link.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:29 AM
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1. "They are dangerous terrorists." I wonder if anyone in this "change" administration is listening?
n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:31 AM
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2. Dr. Warren's interview is compelling. I hope someone in DoJ watches it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:46 AM
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4. Justice Department To Probe Tiller Killing
I just hope they hurry up about it.



Justice Department To Probe Tiller Killing
By Zachary Roth - June 5, 2009, 3:34PM

The Justice Department has announced an investigation into whether federal crimes were committed in connection with the murder of Dr. George Tiller.

In a press release, DOJ writes that it will probe whether there were violations of the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances (FACE) Act or other federal statutes in the case.

more...

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/justice_department_to_probe_tiller_killing.php?ref=fpblg
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:17 PM
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11. I'll believe it's real when Roeder is charged as a terrorist
Otherwise, I'm about fed up with the Obama administration.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:32 AM
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3. Some freaks out there want _____ killed.
Get used to it or become a real community.

Good luck, either way.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:56 AM
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7. Thanks, Deja Q. I was just thinking, who else would it be okay to kill in church?
I mean, what's next? A librarian? A teacher? A cop? Some school board member? These lawless people have to be answered and stopped before they kill someone else. :(
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:49 PM
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18. Maybe he thought he was doing it in front of "God". A sacrifice so to speak.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 04:03 PM
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19. These people's delusions have been so validated
who would be surprised? :(
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:53 AM
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5. K&R
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:53 AM
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6. Here is a link to a group Dr. Hern helped found, prochoice.org
I don't know how active they are but their site seems pretty up to date and they have a list for action alerts:

http://www.prochoice.org/default.htm
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:57 AM
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8. so, who are "they?"
from their public remarks, it seems "they" are Operation Rescue, the former head of the Southern Baptists, Bill O'Reilly James Dobson and Ann Coulter.

These, in other words, are all people who support domestic terrorists and want to undermine American democracy. These are all "christianist" terrorists

Why doesn't the law apply to them as well as Islamic terrorist supporters who call for the murder of American citizens? At the very least, shouldn't they be deported?
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:03 PM
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9. where are we to deport them to? Biblevania?
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 02:10 PM
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17. Gitmo
that's where we are housing terrorists and their supporters.

since our courts just convicted a muslim man whose crime was taking photos of bldgs (and, therefore, supporting terrorism) we have more than ample evidence of the support for terrorists among the right wing because they have spoken openly about the same.

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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 05:00 AM
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23. Nah. Jesusville - a little town in the South somewhere. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:14 PM
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10. In the interview, Warren compares them directly to the Taliban
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 12:14 PM by EFerrari
people who want a fascist Christian theocracy. He said the only difference is that the Taliban are Islamic.

I agree with him.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:54 PM
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12. BTTT
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:07 PM
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13. . .
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:12 PM
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14. The so called "pro life" terrorists are putting women and children at risk
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 01:13 PM by EFerrari
with their violence and intimidation. Most doctors that provide these services also provide other OB/GYN services and those waiting rooms are full of moms and young children.

I honestly don't know why there are still seven doctors that provide later term abortions in the United States when they have to operate in an environment of constant threat. :shrug:
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 09:55 AM
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25. Hey there friend
I was thinking there were only TWO left that performed third trimester abortions.
Am I mistaken?
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:28 PM
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15. He should move to one of those self defense shoot first states.
Then the next time they protest his clinic he should start shooting then claim that he was exercising his right to defend himself from known terrorists.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:35 PM
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16. How screwed up is it that women's health care providers have to work
with one eye looking over their shoulder? :shrug:
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 04:10 PM
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20. This isn't conjecture. It's a fact. And that being the case, the federal government should supply
and pay for round the clock security for all of these doctors.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 06:37 PM
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22. The Federal government needs to infiltrate these groups and
destroy them like they do for the "Quakers, retired liberal grannies, wannabe Muslim converts. If the Federal government acknowledged these are "Terrorist" groups and treated them as such then we might see some progress. Until then more assasinations will occur...
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 05:40 PM
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21. K&R
:kick:
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 09:52 AM
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24. K & R. Lots of excellent points made in this thread.
Edited on Thu Jun-11-09 09:54 AM by chill_wind
We really need msm to raise the socio-demographic profile of these RW extremist groups and their leadership a lot more.

Media should be talking about what top-selling books they read, what websites they gather at (besides the better known FR), what religious and other RW broadcasters they donate to and listen to the most, which neighborhood churches they attend the most, what kind of doctrine is being pushed in those churches, those books, those websites, those radio stations, and by their own favorite cable news media pundits, for starters.

They need to be forcefully called out and the strong associations need to be defined and named. It's not difficult information to gather. The social patterns are there, have been there for decades and many are very distinct.
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