The museum shooter was wearing a "Confederate hat", according to a witness on MSNBC.

Hassin Bin Sober

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:26 PM
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The museum shooter was wearing a "Confederate hat", according to a witness on MSNBC.

Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 02:29 PM by Hassin Bin Sober

The kid thought it was a re-enactment.

:scared:

Heritage indeed!

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tekisui

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:27 PM
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1. Are you talking about the 88 year old whack job racist who shot up

the Holocaust Museum?

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Hassin Bin Sober

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:28 PM
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4. Yes. Sorry. Edited.

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liberalmuse

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:27 PM
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2. They may be terrorists, but they sure are dumb.

Gee, I wonder what made the guards stop him at the door? Could it have been....the confederate hat???

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MADem

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:28 PM
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3. You just really should provide a link--not everyone's glued to cable news. NT

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Hassin Bin Sober

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:29 PM
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6. Let me know how i can provide a link from a live TV news broadcast and I will.

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MADem

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:33 PM
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8. What station are you watching? CNN? MSNBC?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/10/museum.shooting/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31208188/

See? Takes two seconds. Not hard.

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Hassin Bin Sober

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:38 PM
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11. reading the OP where it says "MSNBC" is even quicker.

Also, posting a link not that doesn't mention the subject of the OP seems like a waste of time - now run along.

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MADem

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:44 PM
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14. Aren't you a rude person. You EDITED your post to include MSNBC after the fact.

And my links go directly to webpages covering the story.

How very immature you are.

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Hassin Bin Sober

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:46 PM
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15. MSNBC was in the original title.

I edited it to clarify "The museum shooter"

Now go away, DU cop.

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MADem

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:53 PM
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17. No it wasn't. That's why I asked. Keep behaving badly, though. By your own words we shall know

you.

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Hassin Bin Sober

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:02 PM
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23. Look at the time stamp.

I edited it at 2:28 to include "The museum shooter" in response to a request for clarification

again and FINALLY again at 2:29 to put quotes around "Confederate hat" in response to another inquiry and to show it wasn't MY term.

That was the last edit - at 2:29

At 2:33 you decided to be snarky and ask which station and post a link to CNN and MSNBC.

Now tell me how I went back in time and added the station (even though it was in the OP).

I'll wait for your apology but I won't hold my breath.

Go away.

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MADem

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:11 PM
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27. Yeah--that's why you misplaced the COMMA after Museum shooter

because you added the MSNBC bit to it in a hurry, and didn't bother with proper placement.

It took me a few minutes to GET those CNN and MSNBC links--during which time, you edited.

Nice try, no cigar. I won't apologize to you, because you're not being honest, AND you are rude.

If you don't like me, YOU can leave. Telling people to "go away" is just another example of your childish rudeness. Keep rackin' em up, Fluffy! This insight into your character is quite "special."

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Hassin Bin Sober

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:15 PM
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30. Wait! I thought it took two seconds.

See? Takes two seconds. Not hard

Four minutes or two seconds?

Go away, forensic comma analyst DU cop :rofl:

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MADem

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:19 PM
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31. A term of expression. If you literally think someone can make a post on DU in "two seconds"

then there's something terribly wrong with your reasoning ability.

I won't comment further on that. I'll let your remarks speak for themselves.

:rofl: indeed. Keep on delivering the goods--the picture you paint of yourself is something to behold.

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HiFructosePronSyrup

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:25 PM
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35. Timestamps are timestamps.

Your ass is pwn3d.

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MADem

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:27 PM
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36. There you go again. At least I have a clue as to how young you are.

Either that, or how mature you are--adults don't used that "pwn3d" nonsense.

It doesn't mitigate your lousy behavior, but it does explain it.

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HiFructosePronSyrup

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:30 PM
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38. Adults don't continue to argue after they've been proven wrong.

As least adults who don't have shit-for-brains.

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MADem

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:53 PM
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40. There ya go again! nt

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predfan

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:21 PM
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33. I think Hassin Bin Sober and MADem should wear Confederate caps, at least for

Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 03:23 PM by predfan

the rest of the afternoon.

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Hassin Bin Sober

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:53 PM
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41. LOL. I'll wear the Union cap since I'm not fighting a lost cause.

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SoCalDem

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Wed Jun-10-09 06:04 PM
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46. At least one of them needs

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RoyGBiv

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:29 PM
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5. What, exactly, is a Confederate hat?

Is it a ball cap with a battle flag on it? Do we actually know?

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Aristus

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:31 PM
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7. When someone says that, I'm pretty sure they mean the military kepi the Confederates

Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 02:42 PM by Aristus

wore in the Civil War. Either in cadet gray or butternut.

edit: improper use of the ' . Whew! Someone might have mistaken me for a repuke! B-)

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Hassin Bin Sober

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:34 PM
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9. She also said he had a brown overcoat - for what it's worth.

Is it overcoat weather in D.C.? I wonder if it was for concealment only ... or part of an "outfit"?

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bluedeminredstate

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:37 PM
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10. Not coat weather at all.

It's hot here!! If I saw someone wearing a warm coat I would think they were nuts!

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Hassin Bin Sober

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:40 PM
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12. Concealment is more likely but an "outfit" would be all that more creepy.

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gratuitous

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:59 PM
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20. A brown overcoat, huh?

Are we going to see the same media overreaction to foul weather gear that we saw after the Columbine massacre?

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MADem

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:50 PM
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16. I pictured one of the cowboy type officer's hats, in my mind's eye.

Here's a costume version:

But your example is more likely.

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Aristus

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:54 PM
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18. That style is more generally known as a cavalry hat. Both sides referred to it that way.

I'm a hat-geek, among my other forms of geekiness... :P

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MADem

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:57 PM
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19. I learn something here every day!

Keep geeking, it's elucidative!

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polmaven

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:07 PM
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25. There were students

from Holten-Richmond Middle School in Danvers, MA and from Swampscott MA Middle School inside the Museum when the shooting took place.

I guess they have just had a learning experience they will never forget, eh?

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MADem

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:13 PM
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28. Jesus. Welcome to our Nation's Cap--if you hear gunfire, DUCK! nt

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Oak2004

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Wed Jun-10-09 05:46 PM
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44. A hell of a way to learn about intolerance, I'd say.

And one serious education about Nazism.

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unpossibles

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:04 PM
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24. You'd think these idiots would have learned from history

that the last civil war did not turn out so well.

Oh wait - I forgot this was a Holocaust denier. He probably does not believe in history or facts or anything like that.

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RoyGBiv

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:30 PM
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37. Well, that's what I imagine ...

But I'm not sure most people do.

I'm just curious. I've been known to wear a kepi, both blue and gray, in and around the DC area.

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csziggy

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:41 PM
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13. MSNBC also said he drove up in red car with handicapped tags

Decrepit enough he needs special parking but hale enough to try to shoot up a memorial to the dead? :wtf:

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Liberal_in_LA

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Wed Jun-10-09 02:59 PM
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21. what century did he think he was living in?

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mitchum

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:00 PM
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22. Did it have the confederate white flag of surrender flying on top?

Whiny losers

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Hassin Bin Sober

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:08 PM
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26. LOL

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bikebloke

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:15 PM
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29. Not the first around here.

A year or two ago, I saw a tourist wearing a confederate uniform here in DC. Worse, he had his two little boys dressed up, too - poor kids. Though if he wanted authenticity, he should have lost some blubber.

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Hassin Bin Sober

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:20 PM
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32. is that some form of protest for homeschooling tea-bagger families?

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mitchum

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:56 PM
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42. That's also one of the many things that annoy me about confederate reenactors...

very few of them look like they have been surviving on tree bark and ground squirrels.
Despite all of their talk about heritage and authenticity, apparently they like to believe there was a Shoney's breakfast buffet back in the day

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earth mom

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:22 PM
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34. What I don't get is why there weren't metal detectors right at the doors to the museum...?

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polmaven

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:46 PM
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39. My thought too!

How did he get into the museum with a gun?

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Hassin Bin Sober

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Wed Jun-10-09 03:57 PM
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43. I assume it is because the detectors and the guards need to be inside.

Either way, if they were outside, the guy would have shot up the line leading in.

Did you see the place? The cement posts surrounding the building make it look like a fortress.

Hey freepers! Those cement post are there for YOU! Domestic terrorists.

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Jane Eyre

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Wed Jun-10-09 06:01 PM
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45. The shooting occured inside building, outside of metal detectors

The shooter double parked his car outside the front of the museum, then made a beeline for the front door where he started "shooting indiscriminately". He shot the guard, presumably one of the guards assigned to the front door before you get to the metal detectors. Another guard then shot Von Brunn in the head.

This all seems to have happened just inside the building in front of the metal detectors.

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