Freerepublic is common denominator between holocaust shooter and roeder proves it is terrorist

network

it needs to be examined by the feds pronto


wonder if the holocaust museum shooting was known by "rodant" when he told the AP about further violence?

from freerepublic posters?



wow

FR is a political website where people share ideas. You might not agree with them, I might not agree with them, but they have the right to do what they do.

FR doesn't meet any legal definition of a "terrorist network".


I can't decide if your post is scary or just really sad.

there is a difference

I'd like to think that we have more teeth per capita then they do and that we breathe through out noses a bit more, but FR is decidedly NOT organizing terrorists.

Many lauded them as heroes until their posts were scrubbed. Sure, there were a few voices of reason in that mess, but by in large they champion the same causes.

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

They're independent agents. FR as a site didn't have anything to do with the crimes.

FR is a hotbed for these types. After Roeder and Adkisson there were plenty of posts from people championing their actions.

Sure, FR itself may not be the cause and yes, they are independent agents, but they gather at these places and spout this shit on a constant basis. I'm not advocating closing down FR - I'm advocating taking a hard look at the people who do post these things and a good place to start is FR.

gather

?

like DU. DU is a political blog network where ideas are discussed daily. Free Republic spews hatred on a daily basis. Totally different from DU which i can't believe you have more than 1000 posts and still don't know the difference.

Are you being naive?

They find DU's support of gay marriage and socialism and abortion "hateful" too...it's a difference of perspective, not content.

...and it's more than 24,000 posts.

of youself for assuming a DU member will do something like this.

Statistically, it WILL happen sooner or later....as it would in ANY group of this size.


...and there are a few people here who are a few sandwiches short of a picnic already...

the killing of any government agency or persons? even as much as we hated george bush and dick cheney i NEVER read anywhere here a member say they would "shoot" or "take out" these people...

give me some links.. I DARE YOU TO..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2487403&mesg_id=2487403

That is 2 or 3 examples by Skinner's admission but the general consensus on DU was it was a troll not really a true DUer but the posts and the posters were never revealed.

those yahoos at fr were members

No where in that thread was a username or the text of the post revealed. In general DUers accused those posters of being possible trolls without even knowing what the posts where but that is an example of advocating violence against GWB on this forum.

that was calling for the murder of the disc jockey in Boston that was suspended for his comments against Mexicans (cant remember his name). There are people that are unhinged everywhere. I know that I am not going to assume that every single person that has ever posted on DU is mentally stable and non-violent. It is naive to think so.

they bloat each other up and work themselves into a tither

if someone on DU posts something threatening, it is called out, alerted and removed

activists, declaring "the enemy are cowards and a few of them winding up on slabs in the morgue would do much to diminish the violence they know they can do without consequence."

I'd call that pretty hard-core, and it was no troll, it's a longtime member(2002). Anyone so inclined should be able to find the thread with the search feature.

It was up for about 7 hours, a surprising amount of time.

You will no doubt, point out that many in the thread roundly condemned the proposal while ignoring the fact that some did not, and some furthermore used it to push their own pet issue. I don't spend much time cruising FR, about 10 - 15 times a year depending on what's going on, but I have peeked in often enough to see that posts calling for the deaths of political opponents are roundly condemned even there by many of the posters. It seems on both sites there is a small but reliable number of those who are either keyboard courageous or certifiable.

I don't deny that the climate of FR is more likely to attract bigots and psychos, I'm just saying that we have a few here as well.

They say they should be prosecuted and receive the death penalty.

David

by random people


and for someone to be prosecuted and receive the death penalty constitutes going thorugh legal chanels


Apples/oranges

wanting prosecution by legal means is far different than wanting someone dead and getting the massess buzzed up

and by the way when gay support is "hateful"?

Just as we find many of the opinions expressed on FR "hateful", they feel the same way about many opinions expressed here.

I thought that was a relatively simple concept.

is not good enough. They advocate violence we don't.

that they would consider 'supporting gay marriage' to be hateful. But what is objectively hateful, and very common on DU, is calling somebody a POS, batsh*t insane, etc. Certainly examples abound, unless somebody is a hateocaust denier. Here's one that is perhaps old enough to not be an illegal 'calling out'. For one, because the hate was spewed by the late Hunter S. Thompson and only cheered by DU, more than extended

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2177#2220

we get outraged

we rant


we hate, but we do not perpetuate violence

The Freeper's advocate killing, destroying, or steam rolling over anyone who stands in the way of implementing their narrow worldview.

Sure, we could have a few nutjobs in our midst and sure, something could happen later on down the line with a member here as in any community. But the key difference is we do not actively support or implicitly support action of that kind. It is not in the nature of liberalism.

I don't recall seeing many, if any, posts here about taking up armed insurrection against the government, attacking religious groups (violently), or shooting or bombing pro-life groups.

It's the basic fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives. We advocate change through peaceful action within the system. They advocate destroying all those who oppose them through any means necessary, especially when they don't get their way.

It's worth the feds investigating.

if not, how can we contact FBI so they can do their jobs and monitor these people?

I'm 99.99% certain the FBI keeps an eye on FR and other sites like StormFront (white power types) as well as many others. But they're not going to visibly park the partyvan on the front page (metaphor: list all the sites they monitor) and drive all the paranoid and potentially violent types off to a new website where they'll have to be discovered and tracked all over again.

further, there isn't a whole lot they can do to connect the dots between 'Obama, what a Marxist' and someone actually going and carrying out a shooting. - that is, their powers of prediction are limited, not to mention the legal and constitutional restrictions which prevent them putting any given member under a surveillance microscope.

the posts linked here from FR were NOT posted by the gunman from the Holocaust Museum on FR..they were posted by a FR member from his writings posted elsewhere

That's enough to cause the authorities to take a hard look at what's going on there, at the very least.

They can have their places to spout their narrow world view all they want. It's just that when it reaches a point where they openly call for armed insurrection against the Government and wink and nod other violent acts, it crosses the line of Free Speech and enters dangerous territory.

They need to look at FR posters who cheerlead this type of behavior.

the police will

big BIG difference

And peacefully, I might add.

These people have been foaming at the mouth for years and they've hit breakdown mode after the election. The number of posts on FR that I've seen that openly call for taking up arms against the government and cheering on the actions of these whackos that kill, maim, and murder for their cause has been too numerous to count.

and they have amped up the rhetoric greatly

they got it right

Hell, they've done their best to try and terrorize DU for years.

It's that 1/10th of a percent that'll getcha, though.

Freepers are doubtless a motley crew, ranging from people working for Republican politicians, to inadequate youngsters living in Mum's basement. Probably more of the latter.

Domestic RW terrorism is more of a problem in many places than often recognized by those who think that It's Foreigners that Do It; and there should be some close monitoring of it. But it's not likely to be Free Republic as an organization - I doubt that they're that tightly knit.

it should still be examined

this time

tonight

but we need to keep this kicked

Seize their records and start sending all of them to Gitmo.

These TERRORISTS hate America and they all must be locked up to protect the Homeland.

On Edit: If that's how they want it, then they can live by it as well.