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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:49 PM
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Another pointless Republican Op Ed history lesson
The Anti-Reagan
Pat Buchanan
http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20090609/cm_uc_crpbux/op_3310250

Despite his boldness, Barack Obama seems as fated to fail as were Woodrow Wilson and Jimmy Carter. And for the same reason: a belief in his own righteousness and moral superiority, and a belief that his ideals and his persona count mightily in the modern world. Wilson declaimed about America's fight to "make the world safe for democracy" when in harness with the British, French, Russian, Japanese and Italian empires, all slavering to feast on the carcasses of the Hohenzollern, Habsburg and Ottoman empires. By 1920, Wilson was a tragic failure, mocked by ex-allies and reviled by former enemies for having dishonored his own 14 Points…
like some Hollywood actress seeking sympathy and public approbation with her tell-all biography detailing how she was abused by her father — trolls for popularity with America's adversaries by reciting for the benefit of the world all the sins his country has allegedly committed




If Wilson was such a failure why is he rated in the top 10 in 9 out of 11 scholar surveys of the presidents I see posted on Wiki? He sinks to lowly 11th place in the other 2. I mean Pat does realize that Wilson collapsed with a debilitating stroke in 1919 and much of his problems by 1920 come from the fact Republicans controlled Congress after 1918 and effectively destroyed any chance for ratification of the Versailles Treaty. How did history prove out that whole 14 points thing Pat? History didn't end in 1920. Funny enough up until the late 1990s Reagan (averaging 21st place) seemed to place right in line with Jimmy Carter (25 th). Then the myth of Reagan took hold. Since neither Carter or Wilson were failures, why read rest of Pat’s odd op ed. Well maybe to get to the last funny line.


Pst Pat Ronald Reagan (Hollywood actor) signed legislation which apologized on behalf of the U.S. government for the internment of Japanese Americans.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:50 PM
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1. hahahaha
" And for the same reason: a belief in his own righteousness and moral superiority, and a belief that his ideals and his persona count mightily in the modern world. "

wait, which president are we talking about here? :D
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:55 PM
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2. I found his basic point interesting.
He is saying that denying ones own actions and history, and wrapping oneself in a delusion is better then knowing oneself.

If it is true that at times, the American political or even economic, or even social system has done wrong...

Should we admit it and face it.

Or should we deny it even though it exists.

What is better. Knowing oneself, and seeing where one can improve, or just saying you are better then everyone else.

"plank in ones own eye" comes to my mind when ever I hear this discussion.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 09:22 PM
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3. Let's ask dubya. I think this is his area of expertise. Or maybe Cheeeney
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