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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:42 PM
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The Hate Vendors
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 11:56 PM by kentuck
Let us hope the killings in the last few days are not a trend. A doctor is murdered in his church by a "pro-life" zealot, masquerading as a murderer, or vice-versa. A white supremacist goes to a Holocaust Museum just so he can kill those "dirty Jews". These actions are the results of hate.

Where does this hate come from?? It seems to have gotten much worse since the election of Barack Obama, our first black President? There are those that are having a difficult time assimilating this reality. How did the majority of America vote for a black man for President, they ask themselves?

But this hate would not flourish and grow if it were not cultivated by the hate-mongers on talk radio. These folks would sacrifice everything, including their professed patriotism, in their hatred for Barack Obama and the Democrats. And they talk, and they rant, and they yell, and they preach, and they hate.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:55 PM
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1. the hatred has been there right along- for the last 8+ years it's
been fed and fostered by the people in power in the WH. imo

Now that the country is turning towards a healthier, less aggressive and arrogant position in the world, the really sick parts of "us" are being exposed- and acting out.

I believe we might be in for some ugly days ahead, but it's part of healing and growing. The cancer that is rotting away at our society can't be stopped if it isn't seen, and dealt with.

My heart goes out to those who have huge painful holes in their lives as a result of this sad reality.


:grouphug:

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:00 AM
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3. Something sparks the hatred out of its latent state.
It is always there but something moves these folks to act upon their hatreds. I think the hate-mongers on talk radio play a huge role.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:15 AM
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5. I think the talk radio people are reacting to the change
that began in Jan. as well. They've always talked ugly- but having a President who isn't an arrogant asshole, who admits being fallible, offers apologies when appropriate, and actually LISTENS to what others have to say, even 'others' who may not be considered "friends" is very threatening to them.

America IS changing. Not as fast in some ways as many of us would like, but we've changed, and those who live on fear, power-trips, and strong arming their way through life, can't deal-

They feel threatened, and threatened animals can be very dangerous.

I wish we could take the 'megaphones' out of rush & co.'s hands- but maybe THEY need to be exposed for the kind of people they are. :shrug:


The election was more than enough to have ignited the hatred from what i've seen and experienced. But maybe i've just been around a lunatic fringe-

I agree it's terrible.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:24 AM
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6. On a personal level...
My wife and I have had our friends tell us that maybe we should not get together for dinners or anniversaries like we used to do in the past, for fear of what the husband might say about Barack Obama. It sometimes seems like it is more about fear than hatred with some people?
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:57 PM
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2. Well it only seems to have gotten worse.
Many of the policies of Bush/Cheney were of the same 'hurt others' type. They just weren't as obvious or as visible.

Economic troubles, not helping at Katrina, attempts to destroy US Government, war, torture. All have hurt people.

But now that they are losing power to institute harmful things, it is oozing out of just average members of the ideology, as many of the mouth pieces slide further and further to dark side by calling for bad things to happen.

:shrug:

Show them lots of love, they are people to, and most of the Right Wing wants to care, they just think differently, and can't get past some blocks in their mind.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:05 AM
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4. I think it is true...
that we should not exchange hate. Nothing good can come from that. We must show a different side and attempt to educate in a patient way.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:36 AM
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7. Despite the sayings of some, anti-Semitism has never gone from style.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if we see something on a large scale, and soon. Hate crimes will start to increase and Jews will be the top of almost everyone's list.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:38 AM
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8. Good name for them - hate vendors.
They desensitize what little humanity is left in their loony toon listeners.
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wuvuj Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 03:22 AM
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10. Fear Rules??

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22807.htm

The power of irrational fear in the US is extraordinary. It ranks up there with the Israel Lobby, the military/security complex, and the financial gangsters. Indeed, fear might be the most powerful force in America.

Americans are at ease with their country’s aggression against Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan, which has resulted in a million dead Muslim civilians and several million refugees, because the US government has filled Americans with fear of terrorists. “We have to kill them over there before they come over here.”

Fearful of American citizens, the US government is building concentration camps apparently all over the country. According to news reports, a $385 million US government contract was given by the Bush/Cheney Regime to Cheney’s company, Halliburton, to build “detention centers” in the US. The corporate media never explained for whom the detention centers are intended.

Most Americans dismiss such reports. “It can’t happen here.” However, In northeastern Florida not far from Tallahassee, I have seen what might be one of these camps. There is a building inside a huge open area fenced with razor wire. There is no one there and no signs. The facility appears new and unused and does not look like an abandoned prisoner work camp.

What is it for?

Who spent all that money for what?

There are Americans who are so terrified of their lives being taken by terrorists that they are hoping the US government will use nuclear weapons to destroy “the Muslim enemy.” The justifications concocted for the use of nuclear bombs against Japanese civilian populations have had their effect. There are millions of Americans who wish “their” government would kill everyone that “their” government has demonized.

When I tell these people that they will die of old age without ever seeing a terrorist, they think I am insane. Don’t I know that terrorists are everywhere in America? That’s why we have airport security and homeland security. That’s why the government is justified in breaking the law to spy on citizens without warrants. That’s why the government is justified to torture people in violation of US law and the Geneva Conventions. If we don’t torture them, American cities will go up in mushroom clouds. Dick Cheney tells us this every week.

Terrorists are everywhere. “They hate us for our freedom and democracy.” When I tell
America’s alarmed citizens that the US has as many stolen elections as any country and that our civil liberties have been eroded by “the war on terror” they lump me into the terrorist category. They automatically conflate factual truth with anti-Americanism.

The same mentality prevails with regard to domestic crime. Most Americans, including, unfortunately, juries, assume that if the police make a case against a person and a prosecutor prosecutes it, the defendant is guilty. Most Americans are incapable of believing that police or a prosecutor would frame an innocent person for career or bureaucratic reasons or out of pure meanness.

Yet, it happens all the time. Indeed, it is routine.

Frame-ups are so routine that 96% of the criminally accused will not risk a “jury of their peers,” preferring to negotiate a plea bargain agreement with the prosecutor. The jury of their peers are a brainwashed lot, fearful of crime, which they have never experienced but hear about all the time. Criminals are everywhere, doing their evil deeds.

The US has a much higher percentage of its population in prison than “authoritarian” countries, such as China, a one-party state. An intelligent population might wonder how a “freedom and democracy” country could have incarceration rates far higher than a dictatorship, but Americans fail this test. The more people that are put in prison, the safer Americans feel.

MORE....
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 04:42 AM
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11. The answer is quite simple: alot of white people have lost their damned minds
since Obama won the election.

The benefits of white privilege are being rattled for the first real time in this country's 400 year history. In response, some howl at the wind at every perceived infraction from Obama, blowing everything he says/does/doesn't say/doesn't do out of proportion in an attempt to portray him as inferior to his predecessors and/or a danger to this country; others grab their guns and prepare for the civil war they've been praying for since black folks got the right to vote.

You give talk radio much too much credit. Much of this hate has been here since this country's founding. It may have been diluted or shifted, but it's never gone away.
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