Should the sale of nasal decongestants be government-regulated?

Should the sale of nasal decongestants be government-regulated?

license and get it checked too.

might blow up in the middle of the night from those using a room as a meth lab. Your inconvenience seems mild in comparison.

...because that happens all the fricking time.

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nationwide and that is only the ones reported to DEA by local law enforcement. These are not just "seedy" hotels either but mainstream hotels and motels including Ramada Inn, Holiday Inn, LaQuinta, Radisson and even the upscale Biltmore hotel chains.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/02/booking_and_coo.html

The Associated Press reported that DEA records that they obtained showed evidence that nearly 2,000 motel and hotel rooms have been used as meth labs over the last 5 years and those figures only reflect the ones that have been reported to them.
http://methlabhomes.com/2009/04/meth-labs-motels-hotels-go-hand-in-han

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You have little concept of the risk of explosion or toxic exposure from meth labs.... I'm sure Dow Chemical will be happy to move their next toxic and unprotected chemical plant next door to you. :eyes:

thousands of rooms blowing up - they did no such thing. Either you were lying to make a point or you are abysmally stupid.

Reading comprehension is not your strong point, it appears.

No republican ever did it better.

You're an RNC (Rush Newt Cheney) success case.

I have had to deal with the aftermath of children exposed to these toxic chemicals. Have YOU?

assumption is never that someone has had a 1 in a million experience.

especially as the economy makes more and more desperate? Do you have any idea how much risk is attached to children in these environments? To say my experience with exposed kids is a 1 in a million experience is not only snarky at its extreme, it is incredibly IGNORANT.

I'm so sorry that you've been inconvenienced in your routine purchase of nasal spray... I don't know if the policy is effective in any way and would welcome appropriate data to look at it in an unbiased fashion, as well as most of our drug policies-- most which warrant repeal. But, regardless it appears that your inconvenience is far more important than any public health protections in your mind. To the extent that is true, you may be very much like the self-obsessed RW that we excoriate, I'm afraid.

(Or did you ask a question you're not prepared to answer?)

BTW, I don't use nasal spray. Do you know anything about decongestants? You know they come in other forms, right?

Never mind, you aren't worth it.

production ingredients?


I'd like to know WHY people are voting yes or no....

for a while there we were doing good here in OK since we were the first state to pass this law.

It just gets brought up from Mexico, and we still have it getting made here.

So what, exactly, has it accomplished aside from making getting allergy meds a pain in the ass?

You could be right... I don't follow the scientific literature in that particular area. Please provide documentation for your assertion.

I was responding to your assertion.

I made no assertion on effectiveness--only the reason for the laws....As I said, I don't know if they work. YOU ASSERTED that they did not

Back it up if you are so convinced.

I did not and in fact, repeatedly indicated that I do not know if these laws are effective--only that reducing ready meth production was the reason for their passage. That is why I asked you for the documentation/reasons you made your assertion that it is ineffective--not to annoy or make you defensive. I thank you for providing this NYT article. :shrug:

And if people think it makes the seedy motels safer, that is certainly NOT the case.

Ramada Inn, Holiday Inn, LaQuinta, Radisson and even the upscale Biltmore hotel chains in and around Atlanta have been used for making and dealing the drug, according to law enforcement officials.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/02/booking_and_coo.html


http://methlabhomes.com/2009/04/meth-labs-motels-hotels-go-hand-in-han/
The Associated Press reported that DEA records that they obtained showed evidence that nearly 2,000 motel and hotel rooms have been used as meth labs over the last 5 years and those figures only reflect the ones that have been reported to them.


Feel better? Yeah... just the "seedy motels" ....:eyes:

because the rights of people to be able to freely buy a legal substance that is used legally 99.999999% of the time supercedes the supposed security rights of a relative few that are harmed by evil individuals, not evil over-the-counter drugs.

Bust the meth makers, meth dealers, and get the users into treatment or prison (if they will not or can not respond to treatment), and you will solve the nasal decongestant problem.

it is more than inconvenient not to be able to buy more than 10 days' worth at a time. And the price has gone sky-high.

n/t

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nasal decongestants should be legal and regulated, just like milk.

Had to go to the doctor to get a prescription for enough generic actifed to keep me out of the emergency room because the amount over the counter was insufficient for me, one person. What about families?

Price was $3.98/100. Actifed is no longer actifed and the only generic I can find is at Walgreens $5.50/48. But they changed the propellant in the inhaler and what was $7 4 months ago is now $128.00 and my doctor told me I would probably need to use 4 sprays instead of 2. They pulled the over the counter one (again because stupid people do drugs) two years ago so that requires a trip to the doctor to get a scrip too.

Asthma, pre-existing condition? No insurance? You die. Great plan.