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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 09:14 AM
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The Curse of Ronald Reagan.......Quotes that will live in infamy:
"But at the moment I'd like to talk about another way because this threat is with us and at the moment is more imminent. One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It's very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project. . . . Now, the American people, if you put it to them about socialized medicine and gave them a chance to choose, would unhesitatingly vote against it. We have an example of this. Under the Truman administration it was proposed that we have a compulsory health insurance program for all people in the United States, and, of course, the American people unhesitatingly rejected this."

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"The doctor begins to lose freedom. . . . First you decide that the doctor can have so many patients. They are equally divided among the various doctors by the government. But then doctors aren’t equally divided geographically. So a doctor decides he wants to practice in one town and the government has to say to him, you can't live in that town. They already have enough doctors. You have to go someplace else. And from here it's only a short step to dictating where he will go. . . . All of us can see what happens once you establish the precedent that the government can determine a man's working place and his working methods, determine his employment. From here it's a short step to all the rest of socialism, to determining his pay. And pretty soon your son won't decide, when he's in school, where he will go or what he will do for a living. He will wait for the government to tell him where he will go to work and what he will do."

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"Fascism was really the basis for the New Deal. It was Mussolini's success in Italy, with his government-directed economy, that led the early New Dealers to say "But Mussolini keeps the trains running on time."

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"The smoke from burning marijuana contains many more cancer-causing substances than tobacco. And if that isn’t enough it leads to bronchitis and emphysema. If adults want to take such chances that is their business. But surely the communications media ... should let four million youngsters know what they are risking."

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"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. From time to time we've been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. Well, if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else? All of us together, in and out of government, must bear the burden."

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"I have never given a litmus test to anyone that I have appointed to the bench.... I feel very stongly about those social issues, but I also place my confidence in the fact that the one thing that I do seek are judges that will interpret the law and not write the law. We've had too many examples in recent years of courts and judges legislating. They're not interpreting what the law says and whether someone has violated it or not. In too many instances, they have been actually legislating by legal decree what they think the law should be, and that I don't go for. And I think that the two men that we're just talking about here, Rehnquist and Scalia, are interpreters of the Constitution and the law."

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"A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not."

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"Whatever else history may say about me when I’m gone, I hope it will record that I appealed to your best hopes, not your worst fears; to your confidence rather than your doubts. My dream is that you will travel the road ahead with liberty’s lamp guiding your steps and opportunity’s arm steadying your way."



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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 10:25 AM
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1. I especially love the one about "the doctor losing freedom". That's already
happened - HELLOOO? What do you think private insurance co's have wrought?

The ignorance of people who buy into this shit is appalling.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 10:44 AM
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2. Err - sorry Pres Reagan
Edited on Thu Jun-11-09 10:46 AM by TheBigotBasher

"Fascism was really the basis for the New Deal. It was Mussolini's success in Italy, with his government-directed economy, that led the early New Dealers to say "But Mussolini keeps the trains running on time."


The new deal was a moral and political necessity that kept starving people from revolting. It saved, rather than destroyed capitalism.

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"The smoke from burning marijuana contains many more cancer-causing substances than tobacco. And if that isn’t enough it leads to bronchitis and emphysema. If adults want to take such chances that is their business. But surely the communications media ... should let four million youngsters know what they are risking."



Regardless of the incorrect stuff about cancer causing substances, if your better angels led you to this thought, "If adults want to take such chances that is their business", why did you allow the "war on drugs" to start? A policy programme which has resulted in an exponential growth in Prison numbers, not just in the US (which as a result has more Prisoners than China) but world wide. A policy that has caused more harm to families of those who use drugs than any drug could ever do.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:20 AM
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4. I always thought the "War on Drugs" was a Nixon scourge
I used to call it 'Nixon's revenge' for its ability to drain public monies and ruin lives, especially young adults. His way of getting back at the war protestors. Did I get this wrong?
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:00 PM
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7. He (and shamefully Clinton)
expanded it massively.

The rate of increase slowing because we needed those same young people to die for us.

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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:09 AM
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3. Woah, had somehow missed the info on marijuana.....
When I feel the urge to light up again, I'll be sure to get a nice safe product from Philip Morris or Lorillard instead of something with all those natural chemicals in it. I wonder what St. Ronnie was smoking.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:55 AM
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5. Wow, Reagan was an asshole.
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:13 PM
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6. Reagan, Bushco proved that humanity, business need regulation.
Humans are far too greedy and ignorant to be trusted with unchecked, unregulated "freedom".

America is still suffering the disasterous consequences of Reaganomics and Supply Side economics.

We'll spend decades paying for this recklessness.
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:27 PM
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8. Don't forget this one: “. . . a prepaid vacation for freeloaders”
That's what St. Ronnie called unemployment compensation.

:rant:

Guess what? I just got pink-slipped. I'm going now to collect my PREPAID VACATION.


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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:30 PM
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9. "the communications media ... should let four million youngsters know what they are risking"
You mean, like this?





(Photoshop op! Who wants to make that a pack of Mr. Jays?)
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 05:19 AM
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10. "We begin bombing in five minutes"
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 05:20 AM
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11. "You know, a tree is a tree. How many more do you need to look at?"
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