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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:25 AM
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'lone wolf'? Humbug. I see the exchanges and think the important thing to keep in mind is the way...
thoughts, plans, aspirations, even malignant creeds are able to be shared, amplified: enhanced within emotionally brittle groups with as little suggestion as taking off, if you will, (as it is possible for someone to suggest a clandestine meeting with the turning of a flower on a porch to the sun) one's left sock instead of the right one first and voila! A seemingly innocuous little message is passed. While the vehicle is understood through it's novel forms from within the likes of Snake Pit to Cuckoo's Nest to 12 Monkeys, it is there. And soon all the snakes are dancing, and so it is that...

Some people may be the snake's head, some people may be the snake's tail, or it's belly...but they are not 'lone wolves' so beware the tack that there are such creatures,

It may take time for a wave to propagate across a mountain lake...but the hate-wing of Amerika lives and responds as a single organism. There are no 'lone wolves of hate'...only one, large, blood splattered face of hatred on which these others we see clearly are shape-shifting before our eyes: Roeder, Von Brunn, Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, O'Reilly, Rove, Mujahid Muhammad, the list goes on...

The FBI has been tracking these murderers and assassins for years, oh really? They've bought weapons right out from under the FBI's nose. These violent RW respondents, taking their violent leads from wherever they may; may be the most brittle and intransigent of the lot of them, but they are not alone; they are not 'lone wolves'. More like the worms in Silence of The Lambs: they are loved, coddled, given safe-house and sanctuary

They are shape-shifting parts of the same wolf responding in what are for them organic ways, and in response to a shared psychosis of hatred they want disparately to share with the world. Which makes them more deadly than even we think they are,

The 'lone wolf' gambit is a ruse instead; designed to explain away the failures of Dept's like the FBI, the failure of American society, and the mocking death of freedom & liberty perpetrated by the RW/hate-wing of Amerika
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:28 AM
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1. Are you suggesting that I am other than the lone wolf I've always been?
Edited on Thu Jun-11-09 11:29 AM by LWolf
Or that there is anything bad about being a wolf, in a pack or on my own?
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:36 AM
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3. Are you suggesting that life is indeed like Burger King and that you can have it your way?
Cause who can argue with a buttermilk biscuit full'ah scrambled eggs :9
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 05:43 PM
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17. I've always known I couldn't have things my way,
and I don't spend any pennies at Burger King.

That doesn't keep me from having what I can manage my way, or from working to have as many things my way as possible.

I still don't get your reference to lone wolves, though.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 06:10 PM
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19. I guess you had to have been following the news as of last night...
I first saw the trend on AC360, panels were opining the 'lone wolf' theory regarding this person who shot up the Holocaust Museum in DC. The 'lone wolf' tack is imo put-forward to draw the eye & mind very quickly away from what is understood to be the rising violence of the RW. The hatreds and aspersion of the RW are becoming palpable to everyone and the RW doesn't want to own their lies and social hatred even after having invested so much in them, hence, at least imo...

The 'lone wolf',

I'm pretty sure they weren't referencing the surname: Wolf
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 06:18 PM
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20. That makes sense.
No, I wasn't following the news. I read about the shooting, but didn't tune in to the inevitable speculation.

I agree with you about the "theory." The rise of RW violence and hatred is blatant.

My last name isn't "Wolf." LWolf= lone wolf; when I registered at Du 6.5 years ago, "Lone Wolf" just wouldn't "take." Lone Wolf is the best way I can characterize myself, since I simply don't function well in any kind of a "pack," lol.
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:35 AM
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2. Hey, I am T Wolf, but I need T Rex. And, does shape-shifting make me a werewolf?
We wolves are complex creatures, though. Sometimes "lone" and sometimes in packs.

But always noble. At least in nature. Fairy tales - they're another matter.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:37 AM
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4. It's good to see DU is really, really on the case...
:rofl:
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:01 PM
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5. As ong as there are no written orders and detailed plans from O'reilly, etc., the lone gunman
story will be the company line through all these terrorist attacks.

Except if the perp has dark skin or a strange-sounding name (but isn't von Brunn too perfect for a Nazi?).

From what I can tell, only KO and RM are continuing to cover the reich-wing connections. The rest are pushing the loner and not associated with anything or anyone beyond their own "sick" self. That way, there is no bleed-over to the reichMedia or GOP or our Christist Taliban.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:14 PM
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9. The talking points are already out there, the beat goes on...
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 05:06 PM
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16. How many 89 year old
mental defectives have their own websites?
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:10 PM
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6. Shit. Where does that leave me? n/t
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 03:56 PM
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14. That leaves you to prove my point: there are no 'lone wolves', certainly as expressed...
by the DU wolf pack :headbang:
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 08:45 PM
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21. Cool
Glad I fit in somewhere :)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:12 PM
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7. Who'da thunk your OP would have awakened the wolf pack?
:scared:

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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:13 PM
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8. Pft, no fucking shit!
:rofl:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:21 PM
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10. btw - good OP
and I agree, the lone wolf crap doesn't cut it - there is an area in our county that seems to be the safe zone or homestead for white supremacists. They like to congregate and settle close to those who share their views. It's not make believe when one can boldly respond to the clerk behind the counter of the little store in that community when she asks why he looks so familiar "yeah, I'm the one that killed that n_ _ _ _ _ that's been in the paper." The clerk is so afraid of them, she will never testify to the comment.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:38 PM
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12. Yup, it's a world of winks & nods, calms before storms, and all the rest...
Some time back I remember seeing a campaign yard-sign for a guy up in the gold country running for both county sheriff and county coroner. I remember thinking how odd the two looked together on the same sign until it hit me: that has to be the cat-bird seat. Being able to flat-out intercede/impact upon data chains right up to and then into the grave; while backing up ole Parnell or whomever like he'd never, ever do anything like that.

Those guys, those people...soon they start walking with the tyrant's awful gait. They are very good at carrying each other's water
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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:37 PM
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11. Time for a re-watching of Arlington Road
An examination of how - and why - domestic terrorism is ALWAYS attributed to a "lone wolf," even when it's clear that the "lone wolf" had an extensive network of support and sometimes even co-conspirators.

Netflix has it: http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Arlington_Road/18171695?lnkce=seRtLn&trkid=222336&lnkctr=srchrd-sr&strkid=171838014_0_0

IMdb entry: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0137363/
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:43 PM
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13. Most correct, ty for your post
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 04:59 PM
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15. No. They specifically understand that they can have only a
very few people aware of their plots. They are aware that law enforcement and sane people who would turn them in have infiltrated their groups.
So they plot in groups of 3 at most. There were probably 2 others who knew what he was up to. But no more than that.
dc
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 05:58 PM
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18. That's why the tick list started with Roeder; he was said to be thus as you suggest...
Till they found a ph#, a scrap of paper, a name, a website...and a following of odd, like-minded birds holding hands in a circle praying for the violent death of others naw, these matters can often be like an unfolding mandala - forensic,
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