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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:30 AM
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A difference between Right wing Christian fundamentalist and Left wing Christians
Right wingers want God to be on their side. Left Wingers want to be on God's side. :shrug: This goes hand in hand with the difference in how each side governs. Republicans Rule while Democrats Govern.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:31 AM
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1. Leftwingers follow the teaching of Jesus, Rightwingers follow the teaches of Paul...
the first Christian fundamentalist.

Think about it - Jesus wasn't a Christian - he was a Jew.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:33 AM
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2. That is about as good an assessment as I have ever seen!
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:34 AM
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3. Protestantism was the triumph of Paul over Peter...
...fundamentalism was the triumph of Paul over Christ.

I think Tillich said that.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 11:50 AM
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4. Amen
Ditto to one of the best explanations I've ever heard. :thumbsup:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:03 PM
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5. I dunno
In my congregation, we try to hold fast to what is good. We also try to take a long range view, believing that all things work together for the glory of God. We try to remember at all times that Love is patient and keeps no record of wrongs, and that it does not insist on its own way.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:18 PM
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6. Paul said some nice things but had a seriously different aspect as to how one is saved
http://www.guidetosalvation.com/Website/PaulvsJesus.htm

Paul admitted being a persecutor of Jesus (pbuh) followers. Paul never met Jesus (pbuh) and his knowledge of him is limited as can be seen through his apistles. Jesus (pbuh) never spoke of him or anyone like him, nor were there any prophecies warning us of such a person. What better way to destroy a religion you oppose then to change its doctrine? People accept Paul not through investigation, and certainly not by following the Bible's command to test everything (1John 4:1, 1 Thessalonians 5:21), but rather simply because he made his way into the Bible. Jesus (pbuh) made it clear that the only way to attain salvation was by keeping the commandments (Luke 10:25-28, Luke 18:18-25), yet Paul gave everyone a "free gift" of faith alone. Paul has successfully managed to steer billions of people from the true teachings of Jesus (pbuh). He turned it from Jesus (pbuh) religion, to a religion all about Jesus (pbuh).

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Look at the contridictions between what Jesus said about the hungry vs. what Paul said. To me this is a clear precursor of the fight we have today when it comes to helping those who need the most. For Liberals, we want healthcare for all and a social system in place that can help those down on their luck. With Right-wingers - they would like to get rid of all of it - to each their own.

Jesus on the Hungry:
Matthew 25:35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.


Paul on the Hungry:
2 Thessalonians:10For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
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Yes Paul did say some really nice things. There were nice things said in the Old Testament but do you follow all the laws of that were set forth in Leviticus? The bible was NOT created until way after Jesus's death and even then it was a committee that decided what message they wanted to give to the masses leaving many many books out of the bible - books that are so profound it would change the face of Christianity today. Better not give the masses too much power (they are available thru the Gnostics).

Paul was just one of many who helped spread Christianity throughout the kingdoms but why was he selected over the others? There was nothing else in the bible that predicted someone like Paul would exist - perhaps those that put together the Bible wanted to make sure the Christians didn't buy too much into the teachings of Jesus
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