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JudyInTheHeartland Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:38 PM
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Weekly Standard may have been shooter target
Source: Politico

FBI agents visited the offices of the conservative Weekly Standard magazine yesterday after a shooting at the Holocaust Memorial Museum and told employees they'd found the magazine's address. A senior Standard staffer confirmed the visit but declined to discuss it in detail. An FBI spokeswoman, Katherine Schweit, also declined to comment on the investigation.

Two other sources said two FBI agents arrived shortly after 5:00 p.m. Thursday at the 17th Street offices of the magazine. They told staffers that they had found the address of the magazine on a piece of paper associated with the shooter, James von Brunn, and asked whether the Standard had received any threats. The magazine is about a mile north of the Holocaust Museum, and there's no other indication that von Brunn had targeted it. Von Brunn's published rants included attacks on "neocons," and the Standard has been at the heart of the neoconservative movement.

The suggestion that the Standard may have been a target complicates any view of the racist shooter in contemporary left-right terms. Von Brunn's white supremacist roots put him under the rubric of a "right-wing extremist," but the substance of his views -- which included everything from believing that President Bush may have been in on the September 11 attacks to denying that President Obama is an American citizen -- are too far on the fringe to fit into conventional political classification.

The focus on the Standard, though, appears to be of a piece with his central motivation: Anti-Semitism. In one essay, Von Brunn attacked "JEWS-NEOCONS-BILL O’REILLY," and the suggestion that neoconservatism is a specifically Jewish conspiracy is common on the racist fringe.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0609/Weekly_Standard_may_have_been_shooter_target.html?showall
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:41 PM
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1. It doesn't complicate jack. "True Conservatives" hate neo-cons.
Duh.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:41 PM
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I know Weekly Standard has a few high profile Jewish
contributors such as Kristol and Krauthammer(forgive any spelling errors) so this would only make sense.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:17 PM
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17. you misspelled Craphammer ...
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:41 PM
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2. Bill O'Reilly? The "Weakly" Standard? Come ON. This is bizarro world! nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:43 PM
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4. Maybe he thought they were making the racists look bad.
By not being proud enough of being bigots or something.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:01 PM
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11. deleted
Edited on Thu Jun-11-09 01:01 PM by redqueen
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:09 PM
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13. May have meant Bill Kristol who is the editor (nt)
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:41 PM
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3. He probably hated the right wing because in his view it wasn't
extreme enough.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:44 PM
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5. And maybe Scott Roeder had Operation Rescue's address in his car because that was really his target
He just got lost along the way.

If Weekly Standard happen to be right next door to the Holocaust Museum I might ALMOST contemplate their message as a remote possibility.

The guy was a known racist wearing a confederate hate - he knew what he was doing.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:46 PM
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6. Maybe now the right'll start paying attention to domestic terrorism
Or not. :eyes:
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:51 PM
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7. Don't be fooled folks!
This bit 'o propaganda is being released by Politico specifically to blunt the massive focus on the right wing hate machine in America. Rush and the rest of the gargantuan megaphone are as we speak pumping this bit of fluff out to try and blame the left for this shooting.

It is PURE propaganda! Don't buy it!
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:00 PM
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9. Don't be fooled folks!
Indeed!

Perhaps the Weakling Standard's address was there because he was to have lunch with them after the shootings.
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:17 PM
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16. Right, or needed directions, or suggestions about where to park... n/t
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old guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:14 PM
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14. Spot on!!
My sentiments exactly.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:15 PM
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15. I'm not buying it! Politico is a joke!
:thumbsdown:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:52 PM
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8. Not long until they'll blame the guy as a left-wing nutbag
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:00 PM
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10. Don't look now
It's already started. The media meme is that he was anti-Christian and anti-Jew, hated Bush and Cheney and neo-cons, was anti-Iraq war and anti-military. But there seems to be a lot less media about it today for some reason.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:20 PM
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18. I called it 8pm last night, June 10th ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8463082&mesg_id=8463208

Hell, they'll probably start pushing the idea that these people committing these acts are "lefties" ... remember, it was the "Holocaust Museum" ... Holocaust implies Jews ... Jews imply anti-Palestinian ... Palestinian implies "liberals" ... ergo ... it was a liberal who shot up the Holocaust Museum ...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:02 PM
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12. Von Brunn says "Obama created by Jews." Anti-Obama rants found in his notebook.
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Moral Compass Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:26 PM
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19. Playing with Fire
What the right wing "entertainers" such as Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck don't understand is that while you fan the flames of hate--you don't get to pick who people hate. They may hate you.

Hate is selling really well right now, but in the case of Von Brunn it is rapidly coming out that his primary hatred is for Jews. A substantial number of the right wing intelligentsia are Jewish.

Antisemitism doesn't exactly adhere to standard left/right definitions. You can find it in the fringe of any political movement. Antisemitism is also the most likely core belief to produce violence. It has been that way for centuries.

When you play with fire you don't get to choose what or whom it burns.

The irony of Von Brunn having developed a hatred of neo-cons and Bill O'Reilly is very rich. I take Von Brunn was not a fan of Fox then...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:27 PM
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20. Hello Moral Compass...
welcome to DU! :hi:
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Moral Compass Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 02:52 PM
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27. Hello Redqueen
Been here a few times. Not a heavy commentator. But I hope a good one.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:36 PM
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21. Another theory: He had the magazine's address because he planned to go there and boast about what
he did, afterwards.

He just never got the chance because two security guards shot him down.

The fact that he double-parked tells me that he planned to go in quickly, shoot, and run out and drive off.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:43 PM
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22. Absurd: "denying that President Obama is an American citizen"
Edited on Thu Jun-11-09 01:44 PM by Eric J in MN
...means that he's not a right-winger.

That was a right-wing cause in 2008.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 02:02 PM
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23. oh horseshit. nt
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 02:04 PM
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24. Guy Probably Wanted To Know Where To Send His Subscription Check
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JeffreyWilliamson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 02:31 PM
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25. I must have been way more drunk than I thought last night to have slept until Friday...
Two other sources said two FBI agents arrived shortly after 5:00 p.m. Thursday at the 17th Street offices of the magazine.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 02:37 PM
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26. if he had the address that can only mean he was going there to get a subscription
or entrust his 'memoirs' to a sympathetic organization...
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Blue For You Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 04:02 PM
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28. Maybe a recent WS article ticked him off:
I wonder if something in this article pissed him off? From 6/08/09: "The Shot Heard Round the World":

"Stefan Aust, former editor of the newsweekly Der Spiegel and author of a popular history of Germany's Baader-Meinhof (RAF) terror group, cites the Ohnesorg killing as "a turning point in the thinking and feeling of many" in Germany; a martyrdom that would function as a foundation myth for the country's radical left movement, many of whom would later transform themselves into university-educated "urban guerrillas." A simple narrative soon emerged on campuses across Germany: Ohnesorg, a pacifist active in Protestant student groups, had been brutally murdered by the "fascist pig" Kurras. When Kurras was twice acquitted in the killing--he claimed the shooting was accidental--it further "proved" that West Germany was merely a rump state of the Third Reich."



http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/564rpjrl.asp
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TheMickster Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 05:37 PM
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29. Maybe he had the address
to either mail or drop off his "manifesto" as it were.
Not content to just kill a few innocent people, Von Brunn might also feel the need to bore the world with his inane ramblings and outright hatred and stupidity. And who else would publish teh stupid?
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