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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 09:40 AM Original message |
Schwarzenegger's budget cuts would be an unmitigated disaster for California's public universities |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
1. The Shock Doctrine in action. n/t |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
2. Reagan must be smiling now. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
3. While Arnie has certainly contributed to this mess, he isn't solely responsible |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. Yes, blame the victims. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. The Propositions these days are indeed pushed by special interests groups |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #25 |
43. The rest of the country should help you out only after the billionaire and millionaire |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
4. I am not sure anyone could do any better in the current situation |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. Jesus christ, that's a seriously ban-worthy statement. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. How so? The California situation is completely untenable...no one could manage it |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
44. Your 1st statement is true. The 2nd, complete, utter bullshit! n/t |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Go back to his days as AG, review the history and try again |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Well, can't "review the history" on him being AG because he never was. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
5. So they wanted to charge Joe Blow $220 to $440 to renew his tags? Outfuckingrageous. |
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Mudoria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I'm certain the citizens of California would vote to fully support education |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. First of all, you've got your figures wrong |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Show me where my figures are wrong. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I suppose you didn't open the link I provided, |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
41. I did, the article is wrong and is low balling the costs |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Are you a libertarian? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
37. The numbers you cite have nothing to do with the Davis era. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. People didn't vote to lower taxes. You're adopting the Repub propaganda. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
36. The poster got the numbers here: |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
40. When was the last time Prop 13 and the Gann Initiative were up for repeal in California? |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. or they could progressively raise fees and taxes |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
42. Still have the same restrictions, but if its clearly only the high end, that *might* get through |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
39. I am JoeAnna Blow and I already pay more than $220 |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. It passes, it really does. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
8. They very rich have their own colleges. |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
9. The bottom line is Californian's are just as ignorant about life and Taxes... |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
11. In my department, we are facing huge cuts |
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OmahaBlueDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. May I ask if you are with a Cal State or a UC school? |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. A UC. And I think the Cal States are suffering even more |
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cagesoulman (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Things that bad at UCLA? |
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OmahaBlueDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I went to Cal, and several were discussing this on (of all places) a Football message board |
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cagesoulman (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. UVA is pretty expensive. Much more than UCLA. |
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OmahaBlueDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Nobody knows |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. or at least as bad.... |
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cagesoulman (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Holy crap. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Indeed we are |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
30. What department are you in? |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
15. Ronnie started this; looks like Arnie gets to finish off the once shining star UC system |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
26. I'm considering applying to graduate school and quite a few of them |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. It depends upon your discipline |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I'm considering applying to three schools for political science |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Go ahead and apply. Don't let bad news stop you |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Oh I will certainly still apply |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-13-09 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
35. He's only finishing the job Reagan and his accomplice Howard Jarvis started during |
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