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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 05:52 PM
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So... did Ahmedinijad hire Karl Rove before this election?

Who knew that Mahmoud was a Republican. He steals elections even more efficiently than the GOP!


What province of Iran played the role of Florida? All of them?




Seriously, though.... we didn't put up much of a fuss when Bush and cronies stole an election here, so why should we care about a stolen one in Iran?

At least the populace of Iran has the balls to get out and massively protest. Gotta hand it to 'em.



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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 05:54 PM
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1. No, this was a very FAIL steal attempt - too obvious to everyone.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/06/because-they-panicked.html

" Drum is both shrewd and correct. A bare Ahmadinejad win would have hidden the fraud. A bare Mousavi win would have been much better for the regime’s atomic bomb program, however. But they may have fatally overreached, like the Shah.

Remember when the Shah sent the Imperial Guard (“the Immortals”) into the streets, and they broke before the masses? We may be on the cusp of another legitimacy crisis here. Mousavi WAS the smarter choice for the regime: a smoother talker, talk of reform, while the centrifuges spin away and the bomb is built in secret. Meanwhle, the IAF’s Squadron 69 is kept on a tight leash by Obama lest the “moderate” President be undermined.

But no, apparently Khameinei is undermined by his own inner demons and past disagreements with Mousavi from the Revolutionary Days and the War Years. So, the urge to humiliate the Upstart overwhelmed Khameini.

Unless there is a popular uprising in favor of Mousavi and democratic legitimacy, the fascist coup will succeed. In that case, matters will be far worse. Bear this in mind: Hewitt and Krauthammer are correct. "


The coup might well succeed. But it's still a fail, because literally everyone knows it's a coup.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 05:55 PM
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2. "At least the populace of Iran has the balls "
Agreed. All the armchair outrage from our media, which never questioned the legitimacy of 2000, is a wee bit sanctimonious.


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3littlebirds Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 06:01 PM
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4. I agree.
We should of been in the streets in 2000. I guess we were too busy and trust the media too much. We always knew it was stolen, but what did we do, nothing but bitch on the internet. The media would not cover it. Now we cover the fraud of Iran's election. How nice.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 05:58 PM
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3. Rove would have done a better job
He wouldn't have had the guy winning by such an ungodly margin when the turnout suggested the opposite. He needed Rove.
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NYC Democrat Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 06:07 PM
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5. Ya Rove would have made it at least believable
I would wager he would do something like 52% for Ahmadinejad 43% for Mousavi and 5% for the other candidates.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 06:29 PM
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7. You are right.
If he hired anyone they would have to have been pretty stupid to give him such a victory, maybe they hired W, he is that stupid!:evilgrin:
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 06:08 PM
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6. If they did, then Rove has lost his mojo

Iranians believed the results were too close to call when people went to bed but upon waking up in the morning the results were surprisingly at a margin of two to one. Even Rove wouldn't be so stupid as to have the election results come out so lopsided.

Winning by just a point or two is more Rove's style.
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