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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 07:44 PM
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We Need A Second Constitutional Convention to Fix America
Edited on Thu Apr-05-07 07:52 PM by Jcrowley
We Need A Second Constitutional Convention to Fix America

Submitted by statusquobuster on Wed, 2007-01-17 11:58.
January 17, 2007
You may not want to know this. Americans have been successfully brainwashed to fear exactly what their revered Constitution gives them the right to have. Those smart Framers of the Constitution decided that we needed exactly what the establishment, pro-status quo elitists who run our plutocracy do NOT want us to have. There is even a well funded semi-secret group organized to prevent what we the people have a right to.

Has the brainwashing worked? You bet it has. In the absence of public furor, for over 200 years Congress has not done what Article V of the Constitution says it “shall” do. Congress has never issued a call for an Article V convention of state delegates to consider constitutional amendments, in response to two-thirds of state legislatures asking for one. That numeric requirement – the only specified requirement in Article V – has been satisfied, with 50 states submitting over 500 requests. Such a convention operating under authority of the Constitution would be a fourth, impermanent branch of the federal system, not beholding to the three permanent branches. Such independence has been cartooned into a frightening monster.

There is no uncertainty about what the Framers thought the nation needed. They wrote in crystal clear language a two-step process for amending the Constitution. First, craft proposals for possible amendments. Either Congress can do it or an Article V convention of state delegates can. Second, ratify proposed amendments by three-quarters of the states, either through their legislatures or state conventions, as Congress chooses. The Framers believed that Americans, acting through large numbers of state legislators, deserved a way to circumvent the excessive power of Congress or its refusal or inability to satisfy sovereign citizens – their bosses. No role was given to the federal judiciary and executive branch in amending the Constitution.

An Article V convention is a clear threat to the political, social and economic establishment exerting self-serving influence on Congress. It can put into public debate ideas for amending the Constitution that threaten established political forces, both liberal and conservative. Acting independently, it can courageously propose amendments without interference from status quo defenders.

http://www.gravel2008.com/?q=node/303

Food for thought. Interesting article to spur thought.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:27 PM
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1. Aggh. Article V requires 2/3 of both Houses or 2/3 of the States to propose an amendment:
"The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States..."

Have 2/3 of the States (33 states) requested a *specific* Amendment? Or a Convention to propose Amendments?

No, is the short answer. That's the hyperbole in this writer's assessment, imo. And taking that hyperbole to it's broad brush assumption:

'An Article V convention is a clear threat to the political, social and economic establishment exerting self-serving influence on Congress. It can put into public debate ideas for amending the Constitution that threaten established political forces, both liberal and conservative. Acting independently, it can courageously propose amendments without interference from status quo defenders.'

is polemic at best.

Strawman arguments are best left on the drafting board.
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