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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 01:14 PM
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Speaker at church Sarah Palin attends for conferences and special meetings gives chilling sermon...
Edited on Thu Jun-18-09 01:30 PM by The Night Owl
Lance Wallnau, recent guest speaker at Wasilla Assembly of God, the church Sarah Palin attended for nearly 30 years and which she still attends for conferences and special meetings, talked to the church about how it should be doing what "radical Muslims" have done and are doing to control society.

About 40 minutes into the sermon, Mr. Wallnau states the following:

The, uh, radical Muslims. This is the radical Muslims. What are we calling... what are we calling them? Radical Muslims. Um, yeah the jihād... the jihād oriented Muslims. 5 or 6 percent of the Mulim population, not the majority, but they'll control the other 90 percent because they control the high places. We have 35 percent of the United States that's evangelical. Here's the problem. 35 percent are regenerated in their spirit. They say Jesus is Lord but they're not necessarily converted... because if they were converted, the 35 percent would have as much influence as the 5 or 6 percent that are changing America... or maybe we have converted regenerated believers, that's people who are born again and being progressively discipled in Christ. Maybe we have them, but because they're looking at the world through the lens of the rapture and America getting judged, they're not taking territory, they're observers of culture as it goes down the toilet. So, meanwhile, your jihādists are wiser than us because they go right to the top of the high places to make disciples out of their nations. They will make every nation a Muslim nation if they have their way. That's the counterfeit for the true disciple. That's the closest thing on Earth to what we're supposed to be doing. They... they... they penetrate a tipping point in education, in government, in families, and in communities. As soon as they get a tipping point of about 10 percent of the culture converted... they're not interested in... in... in just having people follow Allah... they want converts... they want people that are disciples... as soon as they get a 10 percent disciple rate, they create a tipping point and declare Sharia law over a nation, which means that they themselves become a culture within the culture... that you don't go to court out there, you go to court here... you don't do anything... you don't go to school out there, you go to school here. You see, it's the counterfeit for the way the church ought to operate. We should be penetrating every field until we have 10 percent or so penetration of disciples, not people answering altar calls saying I like Jesus, but disciples. And when you get disciples, you can then create a Christian culture within the culture. You can say we do something different. This is how we do it. That's how the Muslims do it.


Video of Mr. Wallnau's sermon can be downloaded at the Wasilla Assembly of God Audio and Video Archive (wasillaag.net).

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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 01:28 PM
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1. Maybe the difference lies in this:
Radical Muslims make more sense than fundie rapture types.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 03:06 PM
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5. right...cause suicide to get the virgins makes so much more sense
than jesus flying in an hauling you away...right...check...got it.

sP
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 04:18 PM
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8. The point which Mr. Wallnau is making is that Christians should not feel content...
Edited on Thu Jun-18-09 04:24 PM by The Night Owl
...to sit around waiting for the rapture but rather that they should seize "territory" from seculars. Wallnau sees Islamic radicalism as a kind of model for how Christians can accomplish the merger of church and state he desires.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 02:01 PM
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2. Ever consider that it might be something else entirely?
Like their god is a macho stud and your god is a weak-assed wanker?
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 03:03 PM
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4. But, but, but...I thought there is only one God
Edited on Thu Jun-18-09 03:04 PM by EC
and he is omnipitant...all being and all knowing...so how can there be "our God" and "their God"?
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konnichi wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 05:17 PM
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9. Well, the 'first commandment' acknowledges an unspecified number of deities...
:shrug:
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 02:09 PM
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3. The utility of incoherent hate-speech is that any bigot can make of it what he will.
Sort of a one size fits all.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 03:09 PM
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7. I have to agree
I will try to remember those words
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 03:09 PM
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6. Radical Christians vs Radical Muslims. Oy vey! n/t
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