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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 08:48 AM
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TIME: Rummy: "They never say Colin Powell lied. They don't say Condi lied."
"They never say Colin Powell lied. They don't say Condi lied."

-- Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, quoted by Time, arguing that accusations that former President Bush lied about Saddam Hussein's possession of weapons of mass destruction were unfair.

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TIME
Sunday, Jun. 21, 2009
Donald Rumsfeld in Repose
By Brad Graham

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Convinced that many of his critics didn't really know him, he believes he got along well with those with whom he spent the most time. "The people who I worked with for the most part, I think, were fairly comfortable working with me," he said. "It's the people three layers down who would get the ripple effect."

Told that even some senior officers who dealt closely with him found him difficult, Rumsfeld said it was the work itself that was difficult, and he defended his own manner as nothing the officers shouldn't have been able to tolerate. "The idea that guys with three and four stars on their shoulders can't take tough questions — well, then, they shouldn't have three or four stars on their shoulders."

Rumsfeld has ascribed much of the negative perception of him and the Bush administration to distorted media coverage. "The intellectual dishonesty on the part of the press is serious," he asserted. He groused about "a strong incentive to be negative and dramatic" that had infused much of the coverage. "It's a formula that works. It gets Pulitzers; it gets promotions; it gets name identification on the front page above the fold."

Part of the formula, Rumsfeld added, involved pillorying him along with Bush and Cheney but sparing Powell and Rice. As an example, he noted accusations that Bush and Cheney had lied about Saddam Hussein's possession of weapons of mass destruction in making the case for the invasion of Iraq. "They never say Colin Powell lied," Rumsfeld asserted. "They don't say Condi lied."

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http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1905857,00.html
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 08:49 AM
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1. The buck stops with Bush
when we say "Bush lied" it means ALL of Team Bush did the lying. If you say that Condi lied, it might mean it doesn't go up the chain of command to Bush or to Cheney.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 10:29 AM
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12. Here's the ACCURATE way to say it: BushInc lied....ALL OF THEM!
Edited on Mon Jun-22-09 10:30 AM by blm
And that includes a few powerful and influential Dems who helped Bush lie to DC lawmakers and citizens who believed they were telling the truth about the intel they saw when THEY were in the WH.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 08:52 AM
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2. Who is this "they", Donald?
You need to get out more, Mr. Rumsfeld.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 08:52 AM
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3. Link to the other thread:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 08:53 AM
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4. If he would listen to the people instead of the voices in his head
He would have heard us call them all liars.

He is a deranged old sociopath.

Condi Lied, Powell lied-- hmmm -- is Rummy targeting them because they are black?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 08:53 AM
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5. Yet another bush bastard drenched in blood who should be in jail!
I thought he was the one smart enough to "get out of Dodge". Apparently not.
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 08:54 AM
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6. Well, well, another thug weighing in on lies, lies, lies? YES we
all agree THEY ALL LIED!!! I couldn't disagree with Rummy more, it has been said and repeated time & time again, they are all lying liars..."intellectual dishonesty" OTOH is something he knows intimately.

I look forward to the day when the liars are held accountable and do jail time for their treason.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 08:55 AM
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7. Callers were tearing him a new one on
CSpan 1 right now.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 08:56 AM
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8. Rummy hasn't been paying attention.
If not for lying, Condi would have nothing to say.

I guess he also paid no mind to reactions of Powell's presentation to the UN.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 08:59 AM
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9. Well, Rummy, you delusional old fart, 'they' do, actually
you just never pay attention.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 09:11 AM
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10. OK. Colin Powell lied to the UN and Condi lied whenever she could.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 10:21 AM
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11. Yeah I'll go for they sucked as bad as you Rummy
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 10:39 AM
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13. It's not only that they lied.
It's that they never, ever told a complete truth.

Rummy needs to listen a bit more as to what the real world is saying about him and his cohorts.

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