Oh my - it's the Shah's son speaking at the National Press Club

on CSpan1
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in the mold of Iraq's Chalabi. :thumbsdown:

Is there any reason to think the son would not follow in his father's footsteps?

with full backing from the West. These revisionists are hilarious.
I heard a journalist who interviewed his mother saying that ma is ready to return to Iran. :puke:
Oh fugg we have a crying festival now - how beautifully staged. And the hacks cheer him on.

Cry, cry, cry - this is better than Mrs Alito.

"unto the third generation" doesn't mean that future generations should be punished for the "sins of the father", it means that the father, the grandfather, and the great grandfather should be punished.

Perhaps I wasn't clear. The Pahlavis were a murderous bunch of thieving tyrannical bastards. Perhaps you ought to read up a bit before making such a complete fool of yourself. Start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pahlavi_dynasty

the way you said it was just wrong, and blithe:

if the father was evil, the son must be. it must be in the genes....

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the sins of the father are very much relevant to the political prospects of the son. To claim that the son of the despot should not be judged by his father's foul record is blindingly stupid. To ignore that the only reason these idiots have the resources to command attention is through the crimes their father and grandfather perpetrated on the Iranian people is stunningly obtuse. " it must be in the genes...." well no shit.

How many generations of evil is that?

since my family lived under his rule (diplomatic ties) for over a year and I was born in Tehran. :eyes:

n.t.

Simply because a country has a monarchy doesn't mean it's a shithole or a hellhole. Sweden, Holland, Denmark, UK... maybe not my first choices of places to live, but certainly higher on the list than some "liberated" places in the world.

All those States are Parlimentary Democracies who kept their royal families and now their king/queen act as figureheads and do not have actual power. (Granted the Queen of England has some but she would never use it...)

Also keep in mind just how fucked up things were under the Shah that they actually fell into a Theocracy. It is not a path worth returning to.

Reza's life has been completely different from his father's. If he were (and it's unlikely) to be returned to the throne, it would be with popular support. It's the only way it could happen. He might appear to us to have a touch of the Iron Fist, but when we consider how things are over there, ie ruling over a people partly comprised of batshit crazy suicidal religious fundamentalists, it would still be a more modern administration than that of his father.

The last 30 years have hardly been idyllic.

You just claimed that the monarchies in Europe have power...I'd stop talking after that if I were you.

As for Iran...they ain't going back. The Shah is hated even by the protestors. I never met a rank and file Persian who liked the guy unless they were related/descended from him or those that were in his little clique.

They DON'T want him or his family back.

You just claimed that the monarchies in Europe have power.

I did?


..I'd stop talking after that if I were you.

Feel free to stop talking anytime you like, especially if you can't keep a civil and adult way about you.

You did compared England to the Shahs reign. You want to reread your words above.

"Simply because a country has a monarchy doesn't mean it's a shithole or a hellhole. Sweden, Holland, Denmark, UK... maybe not my first choices of places to live, but certainly higher on the list than some "liberated" places in the world. "

Now take a look at what the Shah did...it wasn't a cute little "Oh we have a king" thing with"the paparazzi sometimes takes pictures of them being naughty!!!" on the side. No...It was an "THE SHAH HAS ABSOLUTE CONTROL. HE DISOLVED DEMOCRACY AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN WE HAVE A SECRET POLICE TO MAKE YOU DISAPPEAR."

Take a look up. To compare House of Windsor and their "power" in England or Harald the fifth's cute little ceremonial position in Norway to Shah's Iran...that's beyond fucking stupid.

They hate the late Shah and his family so much they made his father's mausoleum into a PUBLIC TOILET. Most of the population didn't have a problem with that.

They are a people who don't like it when the government is not just. They also have a nice long-term memory.

HIS SON IS NOT COMING BACK. NOT EVEN AS A FIGUREHEAD. NEVER. Just like Russia will never return to a Monarchy. The stunning majority of them don't want a royal family.

You did compared England to the Shahs reign. You want to reread your words above.

"Simply because a country has a monarchy doesn't mean it's a shithole or a hellhole. Sweden, Holland, Denmark, UK... maybe not my first choices of places to live, but certainly higher on the list than some "liberated" places in the world. "

One of the neat things about the English language is tense. I did not compare England to the Shah's reign. I was referring to Reza returning to the throne with the support of the people. If that wasn't clear in the first post, it was certainly clear in the second.

It will be a cold day in hell when Reza returns to Iran with the support of his people.

FEARED the Shah and his horrific "secret police." The people were treated gruesomely under that Monarchy. Nobody wants his son back ... he should know that by now. :thumbsdown:

Good grief.

about their votes. Too bad WE, BAD ASS Americans don't TREASURE the value of "every vote counted" as the average Iranian. :shrug:

You might actually try to respond to what people actually post.

on 9/11 were IRANIAN.

To claim Karl Gustaf II and Sylvia of Sweeden do anything more than smile, attend and host Nobel Prize ceremonies, and wave to folks as they parade on by is insane.

Then to compare them to the Shah's ironfisted reign in Iran is kind of...I really don't want to throw stones here.

I would certainly rather live in England than Iran, wouldn't you?

But the Bush Family comes closest to an American monarchy than any other one I can think of. They write their own laws while ignoring others. Their opponents seem to be susceptible to cases of suicide. And unimaginable wealth for doing...what?

And they complained about the Kennedy "dynasty."

The wingnuts are clueless as to what's happening in Iran. While there is a repudiation of the existing power structure, there's sure little nostalgia for either the Shah or bringing back the Savak.

Seems like the National Press Club has once again become the refuge for the wingnuts...giving the mike to a true terrorist...Randall Terry and now inviting these relics of a long lost and embarassing past.

Thank goodness President Obama has a sense of both history and Iranian culture...and the good sense to let events play out.

:hi:

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

thinking he can hoodwink the us government into installing him in a position of power. ain't happening this time, there's a new sheriff in town.

We have a winner

It's a shame it was the leftists rather than these pigs who rotted away in Khomeini's prisons.

... the Bolsheviks got it right in terms of handling 'royalty.' Too bad the Islamic Revolution didn't take a lesson from them.

:shrug:

to a middle eastern county. If not him someone else.
Think about that as you twitter away!

n.t.

He's saying all the right things; change, hope, human rights, blah blah blah. Yep, it's a definite opportunistic power play. I hope the msm doesn't hype this guy and cram him down the american people's throat.

be quoting him in their attacks against President Obama.
I wonder how many people at the press club have been paid to ask specific questions?

This is so orchestrated that it's unbelievable. :puke:
This fugging son of a tyrant is talking about the sanctity of the ballot box. :puke:

statement - hilarious. Made Mrs. Alito look like an amateur.

take in a few uninformed political hacks. It won't work though. He'll be flavor of the day on msm til the next speidi or jon and kate story come along.

We're now only hearing from the former ruling class. :puke:

...that he would be welcome in his homeland. If it is true that Iranians well remember the 1953 coup, then it's probable that the crimes of this guy's father are remembered even better. We've got people in this country who hold resentment about the Civil War in their hearts like a family heirloom.

who fled Iran when Khomeini came to power because they were staunch Shah loyalists.........and who loathe Jimmy Carter because he didn't back the Shah up and keep Khomeini away..........then there are the ones who resent the US role in the 1953 coup against Mossadegh. A lot of them loved Bush and wanted him to attack Iran to throw the mullahs out.

Sometimes I am not sure what the hell kind of government these people want. :shrug:

I don't think you're mixing with enough ex-patriots. Many Iranians loathe the former Shah. They don't want ANY MORE where that came from. :(

p.s. I have lived in Tehran ... I was born there.

of Iranians here.

BTW, if you're gonna get offended by my use of "these people" where I felt it best expressed my idea, I'm afraid there's nothing I can do to help you (or please you). If you put me on ignore you won't have to be offended by me again.

But living a life of ease off the stolen wealth of the murdered adversaries of your father must be very wearying.

Maybe he should take a nap, and dream of being the Emperor of Persia.

neocons or other myth-makers.

:puke:

The Children of Iran will inherit the Kingdom.