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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 02:31 PM
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Placer County Town May Allow Teens (ages 12 to 17)To Hunt Deer In Residential Areas
Edited on Tue Jun-23-09 02:32 PM by Kadie
Jun 23, 2009 7:40 am US/Pacific
Placer County Town May Allow Teens To Hunt Deer

AUBURN (CBS/AP) ― Parts of Placer County have a deer problem. The deer population is way up and so is the number of deer being hit by cars. Now Placer County officials are considering allowing teenagers to use bows and shotguns to thin the herd in residential areas.

Deer strikes in Placer County have gone up ten-fold in just two years. "It indicates that a lot more deer are being hit by cars, and that's what we know right now," said Josh Huntsinger of the Placer County Agriculture Department said.

Now, the Placer County Fish and Game commission is considering issuing 25 extra tags to be issued in hunting season to help control the deer population. But it is who will get them that has some people questioning the plan. One proposal would open the hunt only to children ages 12 to 17. The tags would be good for deer in residential areas like Loomis and Granite Bay meaning that hunting could only be done with a bow or shotgun.

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Other alternatives include traffic controls or putting up more deer crossing signs at a cost of a few hundred dollars a piece. The hunt is thought to be more cost effective because people have to pay to take part.

more and news video at...
http://cbs13.com/local/placer.deer.hunt.2.1046644.html



Is there a reason why they would offer this only to those age 12-17? :shrug:





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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 02:33 PM
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1. Makers of
bulletproof glass delighted.
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 02:41 PM
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9. LOL!
Maybe they are behind this.




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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 02:34 PM
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2. What could possibly go wrong.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 02:37 PM
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6. ...and while they're at it, they should lower the drinking age to
12 too! What fun is hunting if you can't do it sh**faced? :woohoo:
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 02:40 PM
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8. But only while their acting adult by using shotguns or bows.
Wouldn't want it to be undertaken at school, or while visiting a friend in the trauma unit so as to apologize for shooting him or her.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 02:56 PM
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16. Excellent idea
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 02:45 PM
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14. Yeah. I don't think they have thought this through.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 02:35 PM
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3. .
:hide:
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 02:35 PM
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4. most places have PEOPLE problems (as in too many) not DEER problems
if people would quit breeding so god damn fast, and taking up all the deer habitat....

and as usual, the only solution proposed involves killing the deer.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 02:41 PM
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10. So, the solution is fewer people, is it?
Edited on Tue Jun-23-09 02:49 PM by MineralMan
Now, how do you plan to implement that? Who dies first? I assume you don't consider yourself a superfluous person, right? So, why don't you tell us which people in that county in California should be the first to be "thinned?" I can hardly wait.

Bottom line is that deer populations are higher now than ever in history. Why? Because they aren't killed by predators in our cities, and hunting is not allowed.

Yes, we've encroached on their environment, but we've also protected them from predation and hunting. When you hit one with your car (assuming you own a car), I guarantee you'll want to thin the urban and suburban deer herds.

Our population is what it is. We breed new humans all the time. Unless you have a plan to reduce the human population, you need a new plan to reduce the impact of growing deer populations.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 02:44 PM
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13. No need to decide who dies first -- with 12-17 year-olds blasting away, it will be semi-random.
But you do raise a major problem: we keep on breeding new teen hunters, even if they are slowly killing each other off.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 03:07 PM
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18. This proposal could address both populations. nt
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 03:19 PM
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19. Well, there is that, I guess.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 04:20 PM
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26. stop breeding so fast, duh
YOU are the one who suggested "thinning" the human herd, not me

prove that deer populations are higher now than ever in history ... you can't

i have hit one with my car ... i got my car fixed, that's why i have insurance ... i neither took nor advocated action to thin the herd.

my plan to reduce the human population is for humans to quit breeding new humans. stop building subdivisions full of mcmansions and starter castles on all the formerly open fields.... that's a good start.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 07:37 PM
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31. Well, as someone who decided not to have children,
I understand what you're talking about. How 'bout you? Any children? Any plans for them?

I'm curious how you plan to get people to "quit breeding new humans." All people? The end of the human race? How absurd!

You start by wishing there were fewer humans so the deer wouldn't be killed. Then, you continue by wishing that humans didn't breen any more "new humans."

What next?
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:24 PM
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35. nope, no kids and no plans for any
i don't think the end of the human race is a bad thing, many species have gone extinct, why not ours?

you get people to quit breeding more new humans by not offering tax breaks for squeezing them out, by shaming them because they are destroying the planet faster with their selfish desire for a "mini-me", convince them to adopt the children already here rather than making more, there are many ways people can be encouraged to stop breeding so fast. if one has a tiny bit of imagination....
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 02:42 PM
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11. Hey, don't worry -- this may cull more people than deer.
And a deer won't even be killed whenever the shot misses the deer and hits a neighbor.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 04:55 PM
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29. uh...that may change in Placer County. I think the deer were behind the idea.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:29 PM
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36. A real-life version of
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Badgerman Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 02:37 PM
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5. Yeah, like 25 permits are goin g to 'thin the herd'!!!! Stupid virus outbreak!
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 02:38 PM
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7. Well, that should help hold the population down.
And the deer population as well.

But yeah, why only 12 to 17? What about all the six-year-olds who might wish to blast away, or shoot arrows, at their neighbor's yards?
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 03:03 PM
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17. Oh my. I wasn't thinking about younger children.
Edited on Tue Jun-23-09 03:03 PM by Kadie
Hide! I know how dangerous my kids are with just a broom. Couldn't imagine a bow or shotgun.


I was wondering why they were thinking of kids only in issuing these permits.


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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 02:43 PM
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12. Do these guys realize how lethal a 12 ga rifled slug is?
The kinetic energy of a slug approaches that of a .308 Winchester. It can do a lot of damage.

Even 00 buckshot is pretty dangerous to let 12 year old kids fire it in residential areas.

I hope at least they require the young hunters to be accompanied by an adult.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 02:46 PM
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15. Accompanied by an adult! Are you kidding!
The adults will be in enough danger just by living around where the young teens are hunting.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 03:24 PM
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20. What possible harm could come from packs of 14 year-old boys with loaded shotguns in residential
neighborhoods?

Holy shit.
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 04:05 PM
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22. Shotguns? Dude, you don't hunt deer with shotguns. n/t
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 04:21 PM
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27. in many areas, you do ... with a slug, not shot n/t
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 09:26 PM
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34. Around here (eastern pine woods), hunting whitetails with buckshot is common. (n/t)
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 09:25 PM
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33. Yes, you do, with either buckshot or slugs.
Buckshot being more range-limited.

FWIW, look up the etymology of the term "buckshot". A buck is a male deer.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 03:35 PM
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21. When I lived in a rural comunity...
Edited on Tue Jun-23-09 03:36 PM by me b zola
My son went to play at a friends house in the country,he was probably 10years old. The family were hunters, had firearms, and I knew that my son's friend had a bb gun. I talked to the mother before I let my son go to their house, and asked them if they would please secure their firearms and my son was not allowed to play with the bb-gun. She laughed at me but agreed to my conditions. Later that afternoon I get a call from the pissed of mom telling me that I need to pay for replacement of their expensive picture window because my son shot it out with the bb gun.

I never again had to worry about my son's safety around their firearms because the woman had the nerve to be irate with me because I wouldn't pay for her window. I told her where she could stick the bb gun and her picture window.


Kids in a residential neighborhood with guns? What the hell are they thinking?
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 04:10 PM
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23. Shotguns? That's nuts. Haven't these idiots heard of a deer rifle?
Why are they against these deer? Most of them are rather well behaved.
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 04:19 PM
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25. awwww....
what a cute picture.

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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 04:22 PM
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28. you can't use rifles when too close to residential area n/t
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 09:22 PM
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32. Shotguns (with appropriate selection of shot) and bows
Edited on Tue Jun-23-09 09:23 PM by benEzra
are a whole lot more range-limited than high-powered deer rifles are, and may be used to hunt in closer proximity to populated areas.

Unfortunately, your image didn't work, so I don't know if the shotgun comment was intended as sarcasm or not.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 04:12 PM
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24. What a brilliant solution. Teenagers discharging firearms in a residential area.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 05:00 PM
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30. This doesn't surprise me at all
I have a cousin who lives in Placer County and some parts of it are pretty lowlife and redneck - just the kind of place that would let kids prowl around with shotguns.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:40 PM
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37. disgusting
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