Mousavi is the same person who was

Prime Minister at the end of the Iraq/Iran war ? They had collected 400,000 dissidents over the 8 years, so he had them executed at the end of the war.

Gotta love empire.

Of course people can mellow with age, and the people who were "for" him, were mostly against "Almondinejihad"..

Yes of course he was involved in the sacking of the US embassy. So what?

Krieg den Palästen, Friede den Hütten!

I can't believe that suddenly we are supporting the Iran end of Iran-Contra and really believe we are better off with them. I say enough of the arms-trading, deal-making scum ruling the middle east with our support. Let's give the people a chance for once, without leading the sheep to the slaughterhouse for the gain of the billionaire neocon friends in Iran. Ollie North's friends are my enemies. I made up my mind on that one a long time ago.

Blaming the Iranians for our failures is ridiculous.

"Let's give the people a chance for once" - and for you that means tacit support for the brutal suppression of a popular uprising in Iran?

Your notions about Mousavi are pretty, but have no base in reality. Can it be that you have no idea what I am talking about? Why do you support the people who buy the very arms that are killing the iranians right now? How is your support for them helping the Iranian people.? Mousavi is a stooge, and if you can't recognize that fact, you really should read more about Iranian history, especially about the revolution/post-revolution period.

Mousavi and the very people who are sitting themselves on top of this uprising are the people who were the best buddies of the neocons in the 80's. Are these the kind of people you want to rule Iran? Do you think it is justified for them to ask for innocent people to get themselves killed in order for them to take the throne? The Iranian Revolution is happening anyway, it's a demographic struggle rather than a political one, and somehow the whole world except the US agrees on the fact that a violent overthrow is the least productive measure for progress in Iran. Secularism and modernism, in its own Iranian way, has steadily been increasing ever since the Revolution, those few Granddaddies in Quom won't be able to stop that for much longer. To claim that Mousavi or Rafsanjani are genuine popular figures of this trend is ridiculous. They are and always have been part of the largesr system, and their behavior in the 80's clearly indicates that they are the worst sort of politicians you could want to rule Iran.

You are still on the side of an oppressive clique. I support neither, but put all my faith in the kids my age in Iran, of which I know several, who are every day working toward a new Iran, and have absolutely no taste for the kind of games being played in Teheran right now. I mean all this american outrage is so ridiculous, where was that outrage when the parties that boycotted the election - as any sane and honest party in Iran should do - were brutalized and marginalized? The real opposition in Iran, the thoughtful, political opposition doesn't swallow a screening process for candidates by the elite that guarantees that whatever the outcome the man in power will be a stooge. They want real democracy, not the rule of the a-bit-better-than-the-ayatollahs Mousavi-Oligarchy.

I'm not blaming them for Reagan, I'm trying to hint at their dirty past to make a point about the hoax of the "democratic hero" Mousavi. Fucking parvenu. Nothing but a shill.

I don't know much about Mousavi so I'm not going to comment on him, but you are right about Rafsanjani. There are peole on tis board wo are hailing him as great, but he is really shady just like the other leaders there.

I don't know much about Mousavi so I'm not going to comment on him, but you are right about Rafsanjani. There are peole on tis board wo are hailing him as great, but he is really shady just like the other leaders there.

Got a link for that?

I can't answer you question, but the leaders in Iran, are pretty much are shady. One Iranian leader I do know about is Rastananji. I found it interesting that many posters here were excited about Rastanjani like he was the great hope for Iran. Te trut is he is very shady.