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JeffreyWilliamson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 07:48 AM
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Frightening letter in my local newspaper this morning...
Edited on Thu Jun-25-09 07:51 AM by JeffreyWilliamson
http://www.galvnews.com/letters.lasso

No One Above Law Of The U.S. Constitution

<snip>

The White House has fired independent AmeriCorps inspector general Gerald Walpin.

He conducted an investigation into misuse of federal funds by Sacramento mayor and Obama friend Kevin Johnson when he was the president of nonprofit organizatin St. Hope.

Filing his report when the allegations proved true, the inspector general received a call from the White House giving him an hour to resign or he would be fired. He refused to resign. The action is still ongoing.


Yada yada, some other winger crap, and then this:

Those who shred the Constitution will be swept from power by constitutional means, including the Second Amendment, which was included in the Constitution if ever “again” needed for this specific purpose.

Carroll Cawyer
Stephenville


Emphasis mine on that last part. So I'm thinking of submitting a response. A quick googling turns up that this guy is a racist minuteman member, and that the Gerald Walpin case involves more than he's saying here. I am incredibly disturbed that my local paper would print a letter with an implied threat of violence like this.

The newspaper will only allow letters that are 200 words or less. How should I respond to this? Should I take on this guy or should I direct my letter at the paper itself for publishing this?
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 07:55 AM
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1. In general, editorial policies do not allow direct attacks on other writers.
They DO however allow you to rip the newspaper staff a new orifice! Direct it at the paper but make a clear reference to Cawyer's letter. Funny, Cawyer's statement seems to also clearly state that he would have supported impeaching Bush and Cheney. They shredded the Constitution.

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:03 AM
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2. inform the local newspaper with your information
confronting him online is pointless. it is the newspaper`s responsibilty to monitor it`s website. if they share your concern then that poster will be banned.if not direct your comment on why they tolerate this kind of speech.
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JeffreyWilliamson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:05 AM
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3. The thing that upsets me is that this letter will be in the printed paper today...
This isn't just an online issue. My response will also be printed.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:06 AM
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5. Maybe notify the Department of Homeland Security and The Secrete Service
Edited on Thu Jun-25-09 08:07 AM by ThomWV
Let the asshole feel the power of Government up close and personal.
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:06 AM
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4. Good for you!
I love it when people actually DO SOMETHING about what they believe in. Thank you.
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konnichi wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:07 AM
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6. He might be a choad but as far as I know has -first- amendment rights too.
I think 'implied threat of violence' is a stretch.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:12 AM
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8. 1st amendment rights do not extend to inciting people to shoot other people
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konnichi wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 01:45 PM
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16. Maybe not but it seems odd how the USA came into existence through armed rebellion, then promptly
made armed rebellion illegal.
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konnichi wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 01:48 PM
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17. Well, there's inciting and there's INCITING
Funny how some people defend the right to free speech right up to the point where it espouses a contrary opinion. I'm pretty sure you'll agree with that, right?
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JeffreyWilliamson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:14 AM
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9. Implied threat of violence may be a stretch...
Edited on Thu Jun-25-09 08:15 AM by JeffreyWilliamson
But only in the sense that he is directly threatening anyone himself. It's the suggestion that people will use their second amendment rights against the government, after railing against the current Congress and President Obama, that implies he is advocating gun violence against the current Democratic leadership.

Searching this guy's writings on the internet suggests he'd be all on board with a little shooting of people he doesn't care for.
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konnichi wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 01:53 PM
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18. Are you saying he should not have the right to ponder, in writing, something that conceivably happen
Hold everyone to that standard and say goodbye to all works of fiction.
Bah.
I see a few people around here who will gladly throw the BOR down the toilet to get rid of a few who abuse it.
More Bah.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:18 AM
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10. The 1st prevents the government from stopping him from speaking his mind.
Not from the papers recognizing that this person is dangerous and full of shit and not printing his kooky letter.

Funny thing, where was this assclown when Bush was REALLY shredding the constitution. Jacking off to anything other than the 2nd being shredded. Those other amendments use big words.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:10 AM
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7. This is what he's referring to ...
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:19 AM
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11. Armed rebellion is a common justification for the 2A.
That may have been true when the weaponry was of approximately equal lethality between the government and the People.

That may have been true before such a 2A justification was tested and rendered obsolete by the American Civil War.
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JeffreyWilliamson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:28 AM
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12. Here's my reponse. Any advice before I submit it?
In response to Carroll Cawyer's letter, ("No One Above Law Of The U.S. Constitution", The Daily News, June 25), I find it shockingly irresponsible that our local newspaper would print a letter implying the use of violence against the federal government.

Citizens of Washington, DC, do not, as Mr. Cawyer suggests, have a voting representative in Congress. Mr. Cawyer also fails to give the whole story involving the firing of Inspector General Gerald Walpin.

Mr. Cawyer's reference to the use of "Second Amendment" rights against the government, after spinning a conspiracy theory involving President Obama, is chilling.

The Daily News should hold itself to a higher standard when deciding what letters are worthy of publishing.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:39 AM
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13. I googled his name and noticed he wrote a smilar letter to the Abilene newspaper
..also read a few other hits that came up in the search. He sounds like the true base of the republican party.
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JeffreyWilliamson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:43 AM
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14. Yep, I noticed his Abilene newspaper letter as well...
He has written articles on immigration for the Minutemen. I imagine he's sending this letter out to all of the newspapers around the State in the hopes of getting it published. I submitted my response to the newspaper and am considering reporting him.

It's kooks like this that go out and rent a truck and fill it with fertilizer and chemicals...
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 09:52 AM
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15. Have to ask if there is anything to the story about him being squeezed out for political reasons?
Sincere question. I have seen a few scraps on it but nothing in depth
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 01:55 PM
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19. Wonder if this asswipe got as agitated when
dimson was shredding the Constitution? He's just pissed because a black man is president. That is the heart of what has set this racist bastards off. Let's call it what it is.
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