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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:53 AM
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It's time for me to come clean. I'm on welfare.
I didn't intentionally lie to all of you. I thought that I was an air traffic controller and that my salary was compensation for the job I did.

However, it's been explained to me that if you work for the federal government, you don't have employer-subsidized medical benefits as a part of your overall compensation package like people do in the private sector. You have "public health care".

...because that subsidy "comes from tax dollars".


By that logic, any pay I receive, since it also "comes from tax dollars", must be welfare.


Again, my apologies.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:55 AM
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1. You should have punched whoever explained that to you in the mouth.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:57 AM
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4. +1 punch in the mouf.
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Hangingon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 09:37 AM
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17. Me too.
Every once in a while some jerk would hear I was a Federal employee and say he paid my salary. I would explain that he paid "taxes" as I did. Taxes and not the jerk paid my salary.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:57 AM
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2. Don't feel bad.
I spent three years on welfare when I was in the Army. They paid me with taxpayer dollars, too.

Same logic, right?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:05 AM
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7. Excellent example.
I was still getting over the shock of suddenly being on welfare.

I completely forgot about the military.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:23 AM
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16. I'm a military retiree
sucking on the teat of Uncle Sam, just a welfare Chief. If I had conservative values I'd turn down my check and demand the VA hospital system be closed. If ya can't risk your life for your country without expecting cheap health care and recompense then just move to France with the rest of the namby pamby candy assed liberals. We are just a burden on society teammate. Too bad we aren't brave and great like those conservative icons on the radio.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:57 AM
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3. Just askin' here; this NOT an assault: If it isn't supported by "the Market" what is it?
Edited on Fri Jun-26-09 08:02 AM by patrice
If "the Market" has no input into what/who/how the money is spent, what kind of enterprise is that?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:01 AM
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5. And you can't give any of your salary to a church if you chose to do so because it's tax
money and it can't go to churches.

Seen that one on here too.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:03 AM
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6. My tax dollars can happily subsidize you.. just keep those planes in the air
:loveya:
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:08 AM
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8. I will. Thanks for the support!
We're mostly "behind the scenes" people. Most people don't realize we're even there...which means we're doing our jobs.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:08 AM
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9. Did you tell them you were going to demand a tax refund?
If you're on welfare, you shouldn't be paying fed/state taxes or FICA or retirement.

Did you ask them if their employer deducted medical subsidy payments from their gross receipts before figuring their tax burden? Does their employer deduct employee wages or rent/capital costs or the cost of material from their gross receipts ?

Gov't tax policies encourage a lot of behavior that goes beyond home ownership.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:10 AM
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10. Another excellent point.
I'm looking at a pretty big refund, I guess :)
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:11 AM
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11. you just keep takin that welfare money -- with my thanks --
and get my ass from A to B in one piece.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:11 AM
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12. Deadbeat.
(Just kidding...)

By your description, however, all politicians and elected "representatives" (they represent corporations, not constituents) are also deadbeats on welfare.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:17 AM
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14. That's was kinda my point.
Some people have no problem claiming that federal employees (including federal legislators) have "public health care".

If the medical benefits associated with their jobs are "public health care" simply because tax dollars are used, then their salaries must be "welfare" for the same reason.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:14 AM
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13. The company I work for has many government contracts
and gets money from the US Government for the products and services we provide, all paid for via tax dollars. I must be on welfare as well.
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vogonity Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:21 AM
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15. Holy Shit! This means I was a "welfare baby."
Dad was a Federal Govt. Employee
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 09:37 AM
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18. I work for a D.O.E. contractor... therefore, I'm on welfare too....

:shrug:
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