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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:44 PM
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Lisa Marie's thoughts from her My Space
Friday, June 26, 2009
He Knew.

Years ago Michael and I were having a deep conversation about life in general.

I can't recall the exact subject matter but he may have been questioning me about the circumstances of my Fathers Death.

At some point he paused, he stared at me very intensely and he stated with an almost calm certainty, "I am afraid that I am going to end up like him, the way he did."

I promptly tried to deter him from the idea, at which point he just shrugged his shoulders and nodded almost matter of fact as if to let me know, he knew what he knew and that was kind of that.

14 years later I am sitting here watching on the news an ambulance leaves the driveway of his home, the big gates, the crowds outside the gates, the coverage, the crowds outside the hospital, the Cause of death and what may have led up to it and the memory of this conversation hit me, as did the unstoppable tears.

A predicted ending by him, by loved ones and by me, but what I didn't predict was how much it was going to hurt when it finally happened.

The person I failed to help is being transferred right now to the LA County Coroners office for his Autopsy.

All of my indifference and detachment that I worked so hard to achieve over the years has just gone into the bowels of hell and right now I am gutted.

I am going to say now what I have never said before because I want the truth out there for once.

Our relationship was not "a sham" as is being reported in the press. It was an unusual relationship yes, where two unusual people who did not live or know a "Normal life" found a connection, perhaps with some suspect timing on his part. Nonetheless, I do believe he loved me as much as he could love anyone and I loved him very much.

I wanted to "save him" I wanted to save him from the inevitable which is what has just happened.

His family and his loved ones also wanted to save him from this as well but didn't know how and this was 14 years ago. We all worried that this would be the outcome then.

At that time, In trying to save him, I almost lost myself.

He was an incredibly dynamic force and power that was not to be underestimated.

When he used it for something good, It was the best and when he used it for something bad, It was really, REALLY bad.

Mediocrity was not a concept that would even for a second enter Michael Jackson's being or actions.

I became very ill and emotionally/ spiritually exhausted in my quest to save him from certain self-destructive behavior and from the awful vampires and leeches he would always manage to magnetize around him.

I was in over my head while trying.

I had my children to care for, I had to make a decision.

The hardest decision I have ever had to make, which was to walk away and let his fate have him, even though I desperately loved him and tried to stop or reverse it somehow.

After the Divorce, I spent a few years obsessing about him and what I could have done different, in regret.

Then I spent some angry years at the whole situation.

At some point, I truly became Indifferent, until now.

As I sit here overwhelmed with sadness, reflection and confusion at what was my biggest failure to date, watching on the news almost play by play The exact Scenario I saw happen on August 16th, 1977 happening again right now with Michael (A sight I never wanted to see again) just as he predicted, I am truly, truly gutted.

Any ill experience or words I have felt towards him in the past has just died inside of me along with him.

He was an amazing person and I am lucky to have gotten as close to him as I did and to have had the many experiences and years that we had together.

I desperately hope that he can be relieved from his pain, pressure and turmoil now.

He deserves to be free from all of that and I hope he is in a better place or will be.

I also hope that anyone else who feels they have failed to help him can be set free because he hopefully finally is.

The World is in shock but somehow he knew exactly how his fate would be played out some day more than anyone else knew, and he was right.

I really needed to say this right now, thanks for listening.

~LMP
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:47 PM
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1. So sad. We can only do what we can do and sometimes, it's not enough.
That's the deal. :(
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:51 PM
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2. Bless her heart,
you just can't fix another person.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:29 PM
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11. Not directly, no...
A person has to fix himself.

A person having loved ones is more inclined to get fixed. Doesn't mean it happens... doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:51 PM
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3. It's too bad
I think if things had worked out she was very good for him.
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mascarax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:53 PM
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4. Thanks for posting - very powerful
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:54 PM
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5. She comes across as both very sincere and candid...
I hope she finds some peace as well.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:57 PM
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7. Agree. Everything she says rings very true. She must be hurting right now.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:55 PM
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6. That poor girl
You just never know what people are going through. I hope she finds peace.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:18 PM
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8. Me too.
She has to feel as if she's reliving everything she went through with her father. Awful for her. I hope she can make peace with knowing it wasn't her job to save MJ from himself.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:21 PM
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9. Geeze!! She has had to live through this twice
I hope that she finds solace in that he in not in turmoil anymore.

She always loved him......
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 04:41 PM
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28. Double painful. This will make her sad for a long time I think.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:25 PM
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10. And here I was all this time thinking MySpace was just a colossal waste of bandwidth
Wow. :wow:
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:55 PM
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12. That was very moving. Thank you for pointing us to that. Worth a read.
If only to get a small glimpse into lives we otherwise don't get to see. How very sad.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 09:32 PM
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13. Didn't she try to get him to join the Church of $cientology?
At least he had the presence of mind to avoid that fate.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 10:38 PM
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15. Is Lisa Marie a Scientologist?
If so, that's disappointing.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 12:11 AM
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16. Oh bigtime Scientologist and so is her mom n/t
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 02:05 PM
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26. You know, it's also possible that she thought it was a good
place/group/belief-support system at the time.
It's not like they've not been glossing over their shortcomings with other members before, esp. their celebrity members.
I have no idea if she's still gung-ho about it, but a lot of people have their belief systems/church as their only support. It would be easy to go to that first, and try to bring loved ones to it if they need some sort of help.
Road to hell and good intentions and all that.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 10:11 PM
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14. Wounded Heart
Edited on Fri Jun-26-09 10:15 PM by G_j
From Bonnie Raitt's album: Silver Lining


Wounded heart I cannot save you from yourself
Though I wanted to be brave, it never helped.
'Cause your trouble's like a flood raging through your veins
No amount of love's enough to end the pain

Tenderness and time can heal a right gone wrong,
but the anger that you feel goes on and on.
And it's not enough to know that I love you still
So I'll take my heart and go for I've had my fill

If you listen you can hear the angel's wings
Up above our heads so near they are hovering
Waiting to reach out for love when it falls apart
When it cannot rise above a wounded heart.

When it cannot rise above a wounded heart.
Wounded heart I cannot save you from yourself
Though I wanted to be brave, it never helped.
'Cause your trouble's like a flood raging through your veins
No amount of love's enough to end the pain

Tenderness and time can heal a right gone wrong,
but the anger that you feel goes on and on.
And it?s not enough to know that I love you still
So I'll take my heart and go for I?ve had my fill

If you listen you can hear the angel's wings
Up above our heads so near they are hovering
Waiting to reach out for love when it falls apart
When it cannot rise above a wounded heart.

When it cannot rise above a wounded heart.


© Mad Jack Music; Saja
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 02:44 AM
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17. K & R
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 03:13 AM
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18. Genuine grief, up close and personal. May she find peace as well..... nt
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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 03:52 AM
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19. Wow, reading this broke my heart.
I truly wish her peace.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 10:23 AM
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20. you can't fix people. you can be with them in their pain, but you can't fix them.
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 10:58 AM
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21. Very touching. This changes how I viewed their relationship. I thought it was just
a grab at media attention. Sounds like that was not at all true--there was something authentic there.
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 11:10 AM
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22. I can't imagine Lisa Marie ever having a "deep conversation" about anything
She's in the same league with Britney in IQ power.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 02:02 PM
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25. ...and you know this how?
IQ is also no measure of a person's emotional depth or ability to feel.
What a lovely comment.
Oh, and there is such a thing as emotional IQ, or EQ as it's usually called.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 08:56 PM
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31. That's a load of shit.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 11:34 AM
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23. Thank you for posting this.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 12:52 PM
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24. Thank you for posting this.
Very sad and very powerful.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 02:07 PM
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27. Touching words, but sorry ... I'm too cynical about the Scientology cult Lisa Marie belongs to.
Edited on Sat Jun-27-09 02:07 PM by gauguin57
There was a lot of talk when they married that the "Church" of Scientology was encouraging its members to fill Scientology's coffers. I always believed he needed a beard and she wanted his money for the "Church" (money-grubbing cult).

I don't believe a word of this marriage being "real." I don't doubt she tried to help him. But Scientology believes the only way someone can be "fixed" is through Scientology. It's a very unyielding ideology ... and Lisa Marie is a major celebrity member of the cult. I'm sure Michael rejected the Scientologist approach ... and that was the end of that.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 07:53 PM
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29. This is truth.
May MJ rest in peace and may LMP know consolation. You do your best and that's all you can do. :hug:
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 08:08 PM
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30. Sad. sad. sad.
Poor thing.
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