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jarnocan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 06:23 PM
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I am becoming more and more ANGRY and sad about the environment-
Edited on Fri Apr-06-07 06:27 PM by jarnocan
Experts warn warming will harm society, nature
Agreement came after an all-night session during which key sections were deleted from the draft and scientists angrily confronted government negotiators who they feared were watering down their findings
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17953433/
I know we have had many related artickes, but I am so sick of these BAS-ards and all their BU**SH** trying to promote their LIES and keep people from knowing the truth concerning so many important issues. It truly is overwhelming-everything. Ya know?
I would like to read the full reports or summaries.
Even on a personnel, selfish level- not really selfish at all actually: I work in day care and dang it is sad when you can't let kids play outside for days at a time, a realtively very small matter, but it hurts, and it it represents so much more serious consequences for their future!
Our children.. my kids are grown but I still hurt for them so much- I really hope for no grand children- I wouldn't say that to them but dang.

And don't live in hurricane ally? WTF???? BYE BYE MUMS? etc. etc. etc.

"a Stanford scientist who was one of the authors. “Don’t be poor in a hot country, don’t live in hurricane alley, watch out about being on the coasts or in the Arctic, and it’s a bad idea to be on high mountains with glaciers melting.”
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jarnocan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 06:25 PM
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1. USA, China and Saudi Arabia wanted it toned down and it was- ugh! nt
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 06:28 PM
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3. Gee, I wonder how they benefit from it being "toned down"?
:sarcasm:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 06:27 PM
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2. All the political bickering is over the 21-page cover report
I want to get the full 1,500-page deal and read it for myself.

The real shame is the assumption (probably correct) that our leaders don't have the intellectual capacity to grasp the whole thing.
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jarnocan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 09:20 PM
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9. I guess they figure the cover report is what most will hear about-if at all nt
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 06:31 PM
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4. In 2004, 93% of the public did not want environmental laws
weakened. Yet environmental issues were nearly absent from all national discussions by the candidates. The proper framing of this issue, by itself, would have affected the 2004 election and should also affect the next one.

There must be something about the issue that feels poisonous to candidates that they back away from being honest....
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 07:27 PM
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7. It's the jobs vs environment trap
And that seems to end all discussion. If anyone had the honesty and courage to force people to look a bit farther down the line -- and I would only expect this from the most progressive democrats, if anyone at all in politics -- it's pretty simple to rebut the talking point. No planet, no jobs. And we're talking about a time frame that would cause people who are kids today to live in an overheated toxic ecosystem, where catastrophic weather events of all kinds -- from tornados to ice storms -- would be far more common and far more severe than they are now. Desertification, silting of rivers, rising sea levels, massive refugee movement, forest fires on a level we've never seen before -- that's just a few of the goodies we'll have earned.

And that's just looking at it from the human-centric perspective. The real tragedy is we'll take most of the innocents with us --- except the bugs and the germs, who can't get enough heat and humidity.

However, I fully expect leadership from the white house on this impending disaster -- assuming Al Gore gets his stolen home back.


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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 06:42 PM
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5. There's a name for that now
http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070325/FEATURES02/703250325/1031/FEATURES02

Global warming, pesticides in food, nuclear waste — it's enough to keep a person up at night. Indeed, a growing number of people have literally worried themselves sick over various environmental doomsday scenarios.

Their worry even has a name: eco-anxiety.

Melissa Pickett, an eco-therapist with a practice in Santa Fe, sees anywhere from 40 to 80 eco-anxious patients a month. They complain of panic attacks, loss of appetite, irritability and unexplained bouts of weakness, sleeplessness and "buzzing," which they describe as the eerie feeling that their cells are twitching. Pickett's remedies include telling patients to carry natural objects, like certain minerals, for a period of weeks. Making environmentally friendly lifestyle changes can also prove therapeutic, she said.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 07:11 PM
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6. dying honey bees...
people think nature is a bull who somehow creates a china shop, but, i think it was Einstein who said humanity has 4 years to live if the bees were to disappear (bees pollinate most foodcrops, a dollar value literally mind boggling)...bees require weather specifics at very exact times during the hive's growth, or ...well the house of cards construct fails-same with everything, even bugs as lowly as mosquito or cockroach. We insist on thinking it's all weeds, as if weeds are not each and every one a miracle in action....and into this intricate scenerio these bloody minded boors stumble around with clueless arrogance they think is blessed
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=573
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 07:50 PM
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8. JCrowley posted a thread
on Kunstler's (IIRC) article about living without cars. Lots of posts about how "technology" will deal with it. I'm laughing out loud thinking, the INFRASTRUCTURE your solutions require may likely NOT be there once Mo' Nature extracts her revenge for our arrogance!!! :rofl: YO, MO, BRING IT ON!!!
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jarnocan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 09:28 PM
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10. Here is a link to an action - way to contact and connect on this issue
http://stepitup2007.org/ You can search for events

"On Saturday, April 14, Americans all across the country will have a message for Congress to hear: “It’s time to Step It Up on climate action!”

At more than 1,000 gatherings around the United States people from all walks of life who are concerned about global warming will participate in Step It Up 2007...."
http://stepitup2007.org/
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